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tinkybelle Jun 4, 2007 5:23 pm

Is the liquor permit required for UAE?
 
3 Australians were held in a Abu Dhabi prison for 25 days

they were travelling in F on Ehitad

should be released tomorrow.
News reports are saying that they should have had a liquor permit to consume alcohol.
Does this mean we all have to get permits to consume in any class when travelling on a UAE airline or through there?

sadiqhassan Jun 4, 2007 9:54 pm


Originally Posted by tinkybelle (Post 7849314)
Does this mean we all have to get permits to consume in any class when travelling on a UAE airline or through there?

No, you can drink w/out a license. I believe there is an exception when there are non-Muslim non-citizen people travelling who are living in the UAE and flying on a national airline (which AFAIK EY is. Not sure about EK)

Cheers

yyzlhr Jun 5, 2007 3:02 am


Originally Posted by sadiqhassan (Post 7850582)
No, you can drink w/out a license. I believe there is an exception when there are non-Muslim non-citizen people travelling who are living in the UAE and flying on a national airline (which AFAIK EY is. Not sure about EK)

Cheers

What do you mean? Never heard of this- any back up of info?

This story of the three is a little mnore than having a drink:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/uae...809457196.html


Three Australians detained in the United Arab Emirates hope to leave the country on Tuesday after appearing in court on charges of drinking alcohol and sexual harassment.

Businessmen Jeremy Snaith and William Sargent have been in custody near Abu Dhabi facing drug, sexual harassment and intoxication charges.

The third Australian, David Evans, was charged with sexual harassment, indecent exposure and intoxication, but had been free on bail.

The three first-class passengers were arrested after getting off an Etihad flight from Sydney to Abu Dhabi on April 27.

Snaith was handed a six-month suspended sentence on Monday night, while Evans received a one-year suspended sentence.

Sargent was acquitted of all charges.

But Sean Mulcahy, a spokesman for Snaith and Evans, who are both directors of Jupiter Mines Ltd, said none of the men should have been convicted.

He said key prosecution evidence had been withdrawn on the strength of the defence case, including numerous affidavits from other first class passengers on the flight confirming their version of events.

"We are bitterly disappointed there was any conviction whatsoever," he said.

"We believe these gentlemen should have been exonerated on all charges.

"We were disappointed we couldn't cross examine and provide our own evidence."

Mr Mulcahy said lawyers for the men would be looking further into the case on return to Australia.

A full translation of the verdict would be available on Tuesday, he said.

"We'll find out full details as to what the judgment means," he said.

"We will be looking at the detail once we get back to Australia and looking into whether there are any grounds for appeal."

Mr Mulcahy declined to detail what the three men were accused of doing on the flight.

He said the incident arose out of poor conditions on the plane, including unhelpful staff, seats that wouldn't recline and broken entertainment and airconditioning systems.

"The flight was a disaster from start to finish," he said.

But Etihad Airways corporate communications vice president Iain Burns said: "Nothing justifies the bad behaviour and sexual assault of airline crew that was proven in court."

He said the airline would continue to treat reports of alleged assault on staff "extremely seriously".

"We support prosecutions by the authorities, where there is sufficient evidence, anywhere in the world," he said tonight.

"The safety of our customers and crew is our number one priority and we will continue to uphold a zero tolerance policy towards disruptive passengers."

Mr Mulcahy said the men were still in police custody in the UAE, but hoped to leave on Tuesday.

He said they were negotiating their onward journey and may not fly back to Australia, instead preferring to continue their business trip.

AAP



sadiqhassan Jun 5, 2007 4:28 pm


Originally Posted by yyzlhr (Post 7851239)
What do you mean? Never heard of this- any back up of info?


I've only heard through word of mouth, but I googled it and found (for Canadians living in UAE)


Obtain a Liquor License

You need a letter from your sponsor confirming that you work for them and they should state how much you earn (because the amount of liquor you are allowed is directly related to what you earn) and your passport. From the Canadian Consulate in Dubai or Canadian Embassy in Abu Dhabi, you require a statement attesting that you are not Muslim to be signed in front of the Consul. You might find that if you approach the liquor outlets direct, that they will process the license for you, but if not, then you will need to go the Alcohol / Hotel License Bureau {situated on Road No 19 running between 4th Street (East Road) and 2nd Street (Airport Road)}.
http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/abudhabi/menu04-en.asp

Cheers

tinkybelle Jun 5, 2007 4:47 pm

I spoke to my contact in Sydney who said that apparently Abu Dhabi is a different state with different laws to Dubai.
and apparently Dubai is more liberal on this.
is that true?
I have not had a problem on Emirates but just wondering about the actual laws.:(

yyzlhr Jun 5, 2007 9:25 pm


Originally Posted by sadiqhassan (Post 7855194)
I've only heard through word of mouth, but I googled it and found (for Canadians living in UAE)


http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/abudhabi/menu04-en.asp

Cheers

You do need a liquor licence to buy from the liquor store - and your limit monthly is based your monthly salary . I have lived here for a year and not bothered with the licence. Never heard anything about booze on plane being an issue.

sadiqhassan Jun 5, 2007 9:27 pm


Originally Posted by yyzlhr (Post 7856584)
You do need a liquor licence to buy from the liquor store - and your limit monthly is based your monthly salary . I have lived here for a year and not bothered with the licence. Never heard anything about booze on plane being an issue.

...until this incident :p

I don't drink, so I don't really know all the details as I said before. However, IMHO, the liquor license seems to be being used as an 'excuse' rather than something that is actually the law - I doubt that very many people get a license before flying, if any.

Cheers

dusordua Jun 5, 2007 10:17 pm

It seems to be not only alcohol...
Gulf News reported:

The two men, together with a third, were alleged to have engaged in continuous binge drinking and offensive behaviour throughout the journey.

It was alleged that despite repeated requests and warnings the three men continued to behave inappropriately causing significant concern to staff and passengers. It was also alleged that at one point, the need to divert the flight in order to resolve the situation was considered.

David Andrew Evans was found guilty of sexual assault and was sentenced to a twelve-month custodial sentence, suspended for three years. He had also been charged with public exposure and indecency after allegedly removing his clothing and repeatedly exposing himself during the flight.

Jeremy (Harvey David) Snaith was convicted of sexual harassment and given a three-month custodial sentence, suspended for three years.

He had also been charged with unlawful consumption of cocaine and hashish after traces of both were returned in a positive drugs test. He was also charged with the use of offensive language in a public place. It was deemed by the court that Snaith's positive drug test was the result of consumption prior to his departure for the United Arab Emirates.

The court heard testimony from one of the female cabin crew who had been a victim of the ordeal. Evidence was provided of a catalogue of offensive, sexually-orientated acts committed under the influence of alcohol. These ranged from unwelcome advances to actual sexual assault.

A third man, Wiliam Sargent, was acquitted on two charges - the unlawful consumption of temazepam and the use of offensive language in a public place.

Speaking in response to the verdicts, Etihad Airways spokesperson Iain Burns said, "Etihad Airways will continue to treat reports of alleged assault on our staff extremely seriously. We support prosecutions by the authorities, where there is sufficient evidence, anywhere in the world. The safety of our customers and crew is our number one priority and we will continue to uphold a zero tolerance policy towards disruptive passengers."

You can find the whole article here:
http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles.../10130176.html

iancanton Jun 8, 2007 8:50 am


Originally Posted by tinkybelle (Post 7855288)
I spoke to my contact in Sydney who said that apparently Abu Dhabi is a different state with different laws to Dubai.
and apparently Dubai is more liberal on this.
is that true?
I have not had a problem on Emirates but just wondering about the actual laws.:(

dubai is more liberal on alcohol and it is perfectly normal for non-muslim tourists without a liquor licence to consume alcohol in bars that are attached to hotels. on the other hand, sharjah emirate is completely dry.

that said, i've never heard of in-flight restrictions in the uae on flights to and from non-muslim countries. after all, they would hardly serve alcohol on the plane if it was against the law to consume it!

ian. :)

DYKWIA Jun 8, 2007 9:06 am


Originally Posted by iancanton (Post 7871311)
that said, i've never heard of in-flight restrictions in the uae on flights to and from non-muslim countries. after all, they would hardly serve alcohol on the plane if it was against the law to consume it!

But getting completely p*ssed and groping FA's is illegal in every country and on every airline.

I feel the OP was grossly mis-informed, or being mischeivous in her post :)

i didn't realise Sharjar was completely dry. There Sharjar hotels often seem a lot cheaper than Dubai, and I've considered them in the past. Glad I didn't now :)

Cheers,
Rick

tinkybelle Jun 8, 2007 4:55 pm


Originally Posted by DYKWIA (Post 7871406)
i didn't realise Sharjar was completely dry. There Sharjar hotels often seem a lot cheaper than Dubai, and I've considered them in the past. Glad I didn't now :)

Cheers,
Rick

there you are
I have taught you something again:D


this forum is fantastic for information isnt it?

Ehitad is doing it very hard here at the moment.
most of my friends who were booked have cancelled their Ehitad flights

qasr Jun 8, 2007 10:41 pm


Originally Posted by tinkybelle (Post 7874154)
Ehitad is doing it very hard here at the moment.
most of my friends who were booked have cancelled their Ehitad flights

What exactly were their expectations? :confused:

tinkybelle Jun 9, 2007 6:07 pm


Originally Posted by qasr (Post 7875217)
What exactly were their expectations? :confused:

as they were first and bus pax. their expectations. are
good service
a working IFE
cold drinks
decent J and F food
not having to wait 2 hrs for water after requesting it!:rolleyes:

5 other collegues/ friends have travelled on Ehitad since it started here and all have expressed displeasure at the
lack of service
amateur food and service
unfriendly first class staff(these people travel first all the time and have travelled on lufthansa united qantas BA thai etc and said that unless it was EXTREMELY CHEAP(WHICH IT WAS AT $7300)he would not travelling on them again.
the guy who first reported to me that it was an amateur service travelled on 5th may.he does not drink alcohol as he is a fitness freek. he is also a happily married 50 year old . he is very quiet on the flights he just wants a flat bed to sleep.

kar don Oct 12, 2017 10:33 am

What is the latest on this? Visiting Dubai for the first time, how do they prove whether you are muslim or non-muslim?

m3red Oct 12, 2017 11:15 am


Originally Posted by kar don (Post 28924368)
What is the latest on this? Visiting Dubai for the first time, how do they prove whether you are muslim or non-muslim?

Why has this ancient post with nothing to do with EK resurfaced?


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