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Londonflyer May 11, 2006 6:57 am

Cost of DXB-LHR
 
Does anyone know why economy tickets ex-DXB on this route seem to be nearly double the cost that they are ex-LHR? THis seems to be pretty consistent across all the operators.

Cyba May 11, 2006 7:46 am

I am not sure about tickets ex DXB but if what you are describing is true, it would be consistent with the practice across a number of airlines. There are 2 things usually going on:

1. Customers are often more loyal and hence assign a higher value to flying with their flag carrier (e.g. EK ex DXB). This is due to a number of reasons such as higher identification with the culture of their carrier (e.g. speaking Arabic, carrying local newspapers, staff understand their needs etc), preference fo rthe loyalty programme of the home carrier since they have more opportunity for flying the carrier etc. They are hence willing to pay more for flying them.

2. Airlines with strong hubs can get away with charging higher fares for customers who are O&D at the hub than those that they have to fly in from elsewhere. The reason is that passengers who fly in from elsewhere have more choice. For instance, an oft quoted example in the newspapers is that FRA-LHR-JFK tickets tend(ed) to be cheaper than pure LHR-JFK tickets for same flights and class of service. This is because a passenger originating in FRA could always fly directly to New York on LH, SQ or a US carrier. The rationale is that carriers have a captive audience in their own back yards and therefore can get away with charging higher prices. AFAIK this practice has now been declared illegal in the EU so it doesn't happen as much though airlines still find ways around it (e.g. attaching more restrictive terms and conditions for tickets originating outside of their home countries but for much lower charges)

There may be something else at play here as well:
3. The DXB resident may be less flexible about flying to London than the London resident is about flying to DXB. Also,
4. The LON-DXB passenger expects to pay less for the flight than a passenger who continues the journey on to MLE/ BOM/ CMB etc etc. But the DXB-LON passenger would have to fly out to one of those other destinations first in order to benefit from low prices.

Bottom line, the considerations that affect pricing are numerous and complex. The yield management programmes that look after the decisions of how many passengers of each type (LON based, DXB based, LON based continuing to another city, last minute, advance purchase etc) to allow onto any given flight are similarly complex for the same reason.

Then again, you may have just been unlucky with the dates you looked at.

sadiqhassan May 11, 2006 4:09 pm

I think you just got unlucky with dates. The fares are similar.

[KVS Availability Tool 2.1.0/Gold - Sabre: Fares/TCY/CA-CAD]
Code:

DXB  Dubai AE [OMDB]
LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY
MON  03 Jul 2006

Carrier          From          To  Fare      Cur    Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- ----------
EK              DXB            LON    846    CAD    QLE3MAE1
EK              DXB            LON    924    CAD    KE3MAE1
EK              DXB            LON    1079    CAD    BLE3MAE1
EK              DXB            LON    1173    CAD    YLEE3M1
EK              DXB            LON    1173    CAD    BEE6MAE1
EK              DXB            LON    1266    CAD    MHE6MAE1
EK              DXB            LON    1266    CAD    MLE6MAE1
EK              DXB            LON    1422    CAD    MRTAE1
EK              DXB            LON    1531    CAD    WRTAE1
EK              DXB            LON    1733    CAD    YRTAE1
EK              DXB            LON    1889    CAD    YLPX2M1
EK              DXB            LON    1986    CAD    YHPX2M1
EK              DXB            LON    2160    CAD    YEE3M1
EK              DXB            LON    3468    CAD    YRT
EK              DXB            LON    4402    CAD    JRT
EK              DXB            LON    5629    CAD    FRT

[KVS Availability Tool 2.1.0/Gold - Sabre: Fares/TCY/CA-CAD]
Code:

LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY
DXB  Dubai AE [OMDB]
MON  03 Jul 2006

Carrier          From          To  Fare      Cur    Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- -- ----------
EK              LON            DXB    619    CAD    TE1YGB1
EK              LON            DXB    743    CAD    LE1YGB1
EK              LON            DXB    878    CAD    QE1YGB1
EK              LON            DXB    1023    CAD    KE1YGB1
EK              LON            DXB    1270    CAD    BE1YGB1
EK              LON            DXB    1562    CAD    MRTGB1
EK              LON            DXB    1787    CAD    WRTGB1
EK              LON            DXB    2011    CAD    YRTGB1
EK              LON            DXB    2026    CAD    YLPX2M
EK              LON            DXB    2277    CAD    YHPX2M
EK              LON            DXB    2305    CAD    CE3MGB1
EK              LON            DXB    2563    CAD    Y2
EK              LON            DXB    2602    CAD    C2E3MGB1
EK              LON            DXB    3047    CAD    YEE3M2
EK              LON            DXB    3898    CAD    J2RTGB1
EK              LON            DXB    4315    CAD    J1RTGB1
EK              LON            DXB    4315    CAD    F2RTGB1
EK              LON            DXB    4317    CAD    YRT
EK              LON            DXB    4560    CAD    JRTGB1
EK              LON            DXB    5050    CAD    F1RTGB1
EK              LON            DXB    5540    CAD    FRTGB1
EK              LON            DXB    5822    CAD    JRT
EK              LON            DXB    8820    CAD    FRT

If you look at the 2 lowest fares on the LON-DXB sector, they are booked in T and L class. These are yet to be introduced on the DXB-LON sector tickets, but they will be soon, so the fares should become similar

Cheers

Londonflyer May 13, 2006 6:48 am

Thanks for the replies. One trip already made, and there was a consisted pice of c. £600 no matter what dates whenever I booked that one ( a month in advance). Maybe the introduction of VS and competition from Royal Brunei has prompted the introdcution of these lower fares? Any idea when they will come online?


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