New York seeing double!
 

Emirates to Launch Second Daily Non-Stop New York-Dubai Flight on November 7
Wednesday July 13, 11:06 am ET
NEW YORK, July 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Emirates, a world leader in airline luxury
since its founding in 1985, will add a second daily non-stop A340-500 flight
from North America to Dubai on November 7, due to the unprecedented success
of the initial non-stop service between the two cities introduced in June of
2004.

Operating out of the ultra-modern Terminal 4 at JFK, the new daily EK 204
outbound flight will depart at 9:10am and arrive in Dubai at 6:50am the next
day. The return flight, EK 203, will depart Dubai at 1:30am every morning and
land in New York at 7:10am the same day.
The world's fastest-growing intercontinental airline offers the only non-
stop A340-500 service from New York (JFK) to Dubai International Airport
(U.A.E.). The existing Emirates' service between the two cities, EK 202, departs
daily at 11:30pm and arrives in Dubai at 8:20pm the following day. The return
flight EK 201 departs Dubai at 8:00am every morning and arrives in JFK at 2:10
pm the same day.
"North America is an important market for Emirates. Our move to increase
flights is a direct result of strong customer demand for Emirates' passenger and
cargo services, and it signals our commitment and confidence in the growth of
the market," said Nigel Page, Emirates Senior Vice President, Commercial
Operations, The Americas.
"With flights that depart in both the morning and the evening, Emirates will
provide greater service and access for business and leisure travelers from
North America to the Middle East and destinations beyond."
The non-stop service enables passengers from New York to connect in Dubai to
other destinations in Africa, the Indian sub-continent and Asia Pacific and
reduce layover and overall flying times.
Members of Skywards, Emirates' frequent flyer program, can earn Skywards
Miles when flying in any Class between New York and Dubai. Members flying from
other destinations in the US to New York to catch the Emirates flight, can earn
Miles when using Skywards partner airlines, Delta or Continental Airlines.
Since its introduction in June of 2004, Emirates' A340-500 in-flight
experience has been heralded throughout North America for its exceptional passenger
services and amenities including 12 fully enclosed First Class suites with
flat beds and sliding doors that can be opened or closed at will for privacy.
Other features include quieter cabins, revolutionary lighting to help reset
body clocks and minimize jetlag, the world's most advanced in-flight
entertainment, with 500-plus channels, and Room Service -- an Emirates first.
Customers phone the galley to order meals, served at their seat at the time of their
choice.
Business Class seats are laid out 2-2-2, putting everyone beside either an
aisle or window, and adjust at the touch of a button. Emirates Economy also has
been redesigned to make cabins quieter and more restful, with wider, more
comfortable 2-4-2 seats and nine-inch personal video screens -- larger than in
almost every other Economy class.
For further information about Emirates' JFK-Dubai service, please contact
Carla Sullivan or Marlayna Marks at M. Silver Associates at (212) 754-6500 or by
email ([email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ;
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ). For information on
reservations and bookings, call 1-800-777-3999.
Visit Emirates online at: _http://www.emirates.com_
(http://www.emirates.com/)

Interesting... I'd heard that the route had been performing poorly! I can't remember where I heard it, but it obviously wasn't correct.

Cheers,
Rick

It was at first, but now its doing much better, sold out in J/Y forever and limited seats in F

The new timing are far better for connecting passengers in DXB. That 8pm arrival in Dubai didnt allow good connection to too many places

Appropriate I would think for a city like New York, New York. ;) :D

EK seems to have a pretty aggressive growth strategy for the next 3 - 5 years. Wonder where their A380s will go to...

Thanks for the update sadiqhassan ^ .

Gosh! When will they open more routes in US besides NY. It is so frustating to see that I cannot benefit much. Hello! where is ORD, one of the busiest airports in the world. Even minnows like kuwait airways and PIA fly there. What is holding back EK?

I did think it was the lack of planes, but after this second daily flight to NYC.. I once again have no clue

More, more!
 

Well, this doesnt help me a lot but I am hoping for more flights from the US and hopefully they can get the price down a bit as I would like to start flying EK even more. I have no directs from IND to JFK to its convenient for me now but hopefully as they add flights there will be more convenient options for me in the future. I think this second flight will be great for connections to asia.

This is definitely good news. My question is where this extra 345 is coming from? Does Emirates already have one, is one being delivered shortly, or will it be removed from maybe the Zurich or Osaka routes?

I am quite sure they have quite a few A340-500's still on order

As of June of this year, Emirates has 8 A340-300s and 8 A340-500s aircraft (with another 2 on order). Emirates also has orders for 18 A340-600 aircraft and 30 777-300ER aircraft. And let's not forget the 45 A380s which should start arriving late 2006???

The new service Dubai to Nagoya has been canceled until further notice in order to accomodate the second New York flight.

The 8 A340-300s do not belong into this category, because they are not able to fly ultra long distances.
So at the moment they have only 8 A340-500s.

Malaysian Airlines used to operate their EWR-KUL route via DXB. Each time I have flown Malaysian Airlines on this route, a good portion of C/Y passengers from what I could tell (based on the DXB transit cards) were only doing the EWR-DXB portion. I don't know if EK goes into EWR likewise, but with their CO tie-up it would make sense.

However, most F pax were EWR-KUL pax while it appeared the J & Y cabins had a decent # of passengers using the EWR-DXB sector as O/D; same applied to DXB-KUL. The FC service really shined on the EWR-DXB portion and the service was clearly the "flagship" portion of the route.

The Malaysian flight was operated with a Boeing 777, with a departure time of aprox 11:30am at EWR and arrival into DXB around 8:30am (IIRC) the next day. The return, DXB-EWR would depart DXB around 3:30am and arrive at EWR around 9:30am and flying time was typically between 14 and 14 1/2 hours on the DXB-EWR leg. The passenger make up on the flight was diverse like the DXB airport.

As far as O/D traffic, I bet the second EK flight is filling in the market share MH left behind when they stopped flying via DXB, especially given the flight schedule is very similar to that of the Malaysian flight (MH 90/MH 91). MH still operates flights in the KUL-DXB market, but I suspect when they added ARN as a new destination MH felt they could pull more revenue via ARN than DXB. For EK, NYC-DXB has to be a lucurative market between O/D traffic and transit traffic at the DXB hub.

For those interesed the following are a few comments, somewhat OT, but of interest regarding this route:

The flight path for NYC-DXB is north out of EWR (NYC) over Canada, over the northern UK, down over Scandanavia, over eastern Europe, and the flight would then continue south into Turkish airspace, but make a turn to the east when approaching Iraqi airspace; once the flight would cross into Iranian airspace it would then turn to a southern heading and continue south, eventually cross over the Persian Gulf during decent and land straight into DXB.

I'm sure EK uses the same routing as it falls in line with the great circle route, except a small portion to bypass Iraqi Airspace. From what I have heard, perhaps someone can validate this, the cruise speed on the A340 is a bit slower than the Boeing 777. Not a significant speed difference, but with the flight being just short of 6,900 miles I would think a small difference could make a difference over time. For reference, LAX-SYD is aprox 7,500 miles, but the only aircraft I am aware which does the route non-stop is the 747-400 which has a great cruise speed compared to other Boeing and Airbus aircraft.

The scenrey on this flight on the EWR-DXB sector is lovely during the last portions of flight with the rugged mountains of Iraq / Iran in the north, the views decending over the gulf and seeing all of the ships -- the best part, seeing the city of Dubai upon landing in the morning.

I miss this particular flight - it now operates via ARN (Stockholm) between EWR and KUL. The stopover in DXB is great, the duty free shopping, along with the spacious, efficient, and absolutely beautiful terminal. I wish I could transit DXB on a regular basis :D One can't even begin to compare DXB to any US airports.

Lots of construction going on at DXB with a new terminal being built and I bet the new terminal will be just as nice if not better than the current one when the expansion is finished. Money appears to be no object at DXB and it's an interesting airport as the passenger make up is extremely diverse.

Best,

SDF_Traveler

Wow! This was one heck of a scenic description of the flight to DXB. Dont you sleep at all? You might as well try to write a book or something :D

A340-300s certainly have the range to fly JFK-DXB.