vacationtime1017

I booked business class on EK232 from IAD to DXB in March of 2024 for a trip to the Maldives. When I booked, the flight was scheduled to be on an A380. Now I see that it has changed to a B777. Very disappointing as it is going to be a 2-3-2 configuration instead of a 1-2-1. I have 2 questions:

1) Is there any sort of action you can take to get some sort of credit for flying an inferior product to what I thought I would be flying when I booked?
2) Is there a way to know whether this flight will be on the newer B777 business class product that at least has full lay flat seating, or am I stuck on the old and terribly outdated B777 with the inclined seat?

Thanks!

zhihal

I am booked on the same flight in Jan 2024 - so disappointed to see it swap to a 777, was really looking forward to my first A380 flight.

I don�t think Emirates has any compensation for equipment swaps unfortunately. Just have to hope it swaps back.

For lie-flat vs angled, I think the 306 economy seat 777 have the new lie flat J seats. Expert flyer is showing the lie flat config for my flight currently, but given it�s still a relatively small part of EK fleet, and we are still pretty far out, there�s always a risk of further swaps.

thijsseh

Hi Vacationtime1017 and welcome to FlyerTalk.

1). No, unfortunately (as is the case for any airline I am aware of), the equipment can be swopped at their discretion and there is no compensation for that.
2) It is way too early to say what actual frame will be used on that route and on that day. The newer configuration has only been retrofitted on a very small portion of the 77W fleet, so I would not count on it. The older configuration is certainly very far from class leading, but I personally can sleep well in those seats. The angle is very small and is partially offset by the 'nose up' aspect of the aircraft in flight. try to get a seat in the smaller from cabin (row 6 or 7) which gives a relatively private experience (especially compared with the somewhat 'dormitory' feel you can get on the A380.

thijsseh

A6-EPV and later have the new business class cabin and that is indeed the 306Y version. Those account for 21 out of the current 119 77W's in service, so just under 20%.

vacationtime1017

Thanks for the responses. Unfortunately, I booked a Business Special fare and can't pick my seats until 48 hours out. I am flying with my wife and when I booked the A380, i thought this would be fine due to the much larger business class cabin where every seat has direct aisle access. Now I'm just annoyed/worried that since we can't pick our seats, we are going to get stuck with middle seats in the 2-3-2 configuration with no aisle access and much less personal space. I am guessing Emirates also wouldn't be open to allowing us to select our seats as a form of "compensation" for changing the plane type on us?

Will08

Call and ask for the cancellation fee to be wavered due to the aircraft being swapped to an inferior product.

ZRHMD11

Change from IAD to JFK would be possible for you?

PDXmilespoints503

biz class flight dxb to iad nov 23 also switched from a380 to b777. the version of the b777 it three classes according to seat guru. does that mean we have updated hard product? Thanks so much!

thijsseh

That might actually be quite a good idea. Ask them to waive the change fee because of the equipment change. Might get a 'no sorry', but worth trying if JFK works for the OP.

thijsseh

No, 2 class vs 3 class is not an indication. At this stage you cannot be sure about the hard product. As I mentioned upthread, about 20% of the 77W fleet have the new J cabin (A6-EPV and later). If it is a 306Y seat version, it would appear that it is one of the new J frames (I cannot see any 306Y frame older than A6-EPV, but I have not looked very carefully).

PDXmilespoints503

thank you! as per seat guru it�s 304Y not 306Y but it says it is the latest hard product. I guess nothing I can do for now. thank you.

Zoni89

I hope this helps clear things up

Configurations:

EK maintains three cabin configuration for their crew-rest configured B77W aircraft. These aircraft are scheduled all routes with scheduled block times exceeding 12:00 hours, and therefore all North American destination served by the B77W.

8F/42J/304Y configured aircraft feature:
Previous generation F/J and previous generation Y seats.
A/C registration: A6-EBQ/R/U/W/Y and A6-ECA/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/M/O/Q/R/S/T/U/V/W/X and A6-EGA/B/C/E/F/H/I

8F/42J/306Y configured aircraft feature:
Previous generation F, Game Changer J and latest generation Y seats.
A/C registration: A6-EPV/W/X/Y/Z and A6-EQA/B/C/D/E/F/G
Note: Game Changer J seats feature grey colored leather

6F/42J/306Y configured aircraft feature:
Game Changer F, Game Changer J and latest generation Y seats.
A/C registration: A6-EQH/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P
Note: Game Changer J seats feature champagne colored seats

Upcoming schedule changes:

As of 04NOV23 EK416/417 DXB-SYD-DXB is upgauged from the current B77W configured 8F/42J/306Y to the A388

As of 05NOV23 EK231/232 DXB-IAD-DXB is downgauged from the current A388 to the B77W configured 8F/42J/306Y

Current and future North American destinations served by the B77W:

8F/42J/306Y configured aircraft are scheduled to the following North American destinations SEA/ORD/EWR/BOS and from October DFW and November IAD.

Note: When the scheduled aircraft configuration is unavailable a 8F/42J/304Y or more rarely a 6F/42J/306Y configured aircraft will operate to the destinations listed above.

8F/42J/304Y configured aircraft are scheduled to the following North American destinations YUL/MCO/MIA, from October YUL is downgauged to B77L

Note: When the scheduled aircraft configuration is unavailable a 8F/42J/306Y or more rarely a 6F/42J/306Y configured aircraft will operate to the destinations listed above.

6F/42J/306Y configured aircraft are currently not scheduled to any North American destinations.

Clear as mud?

vacationtime1017

Seems like based on that note above, even though I will have to worry about potentially getting stuck in a middle seat with no aisle access, I will at least not have to contend with the angled lie flat seats on my IAD to DXB flights. Thanks for passing along that info. Out of curiosity, where does one find information like that?

ZRHMD11

This site is very good:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...zVqxD/pubhtml#

ET359

I thought IAD was one of the more successful North American destinations for EK. Why down gauge to 777? Unless they are planning to overhaul many A380s during this period ..

Also, at minimum I expected them to exclusively fly Gamechanger 777 as they did during the pandemic (the last time IAD was down gauged).