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NYC1 Dec 11, 2023 7:08 am


Originally Posted by JudeS (Post 35813170)
I have to say that I am feeling slightly miffed that as a Gold member (on my own dollar), I have been unable to upgrade from J to F on a Flex ticket booked back in March for travel at the end of January (SYD/DXB with DXB/LGW already upgraded to F).. I have auto upgrade enabled and have called EK on many occasions to check but even when Expert Flyer showed F wide open there were still no upgrades available. This is still the case, although there are now 4 seats reserved in the F cabin. What do you reckon are my chances?

You have no justifiable reason to be miffed. EK is looking to maximize $ for its F seats, not upgrades from C using miles. If they offered these seats as miles upgrades (2 months in advance), people would be less likely to actually buy F tickets for $.

No one can tell you the chances, especially not this much in advance. Once you get to 1 week / a few days before the flight, the picture will be much clearer.

JudeS Dec 11, 2023 7:49 am

[QUOTE=NYC1;35813209]You have no justifiable reason to be miffed. EK is looking to maximize $ for its F seats, not upgrades from C using miles. If they offered these seats as miles upgrades (2 months in advance), people would be less likely to actually buy F tickets for $.


You obviously did not read my post - the DXB/LGW leg was upgraded with miles at the time of booking ( in March\) so your argument is pointless. Also it is J not C in EK speak!

DYKWIA Dec 11, 2023 2:37 pm

He did read your post... LGW-DXB is not a premium route, so upgrades will be made available earlier. There are lots of flights per day from LON to DXB.

DXB--SYD has fewer flights, so fewer seats will be made available for upgrades.

JudeS Dec 11, 2023 3:32 pm

Actually SYD/DXB has three flights a day - exactly the same as DXB/LGW which is already upgraded.

NYC1 Dec 11, 2023 5:31 pm


Originally Posted by JudeS (Post 35813323)
You have no justifiable reason to be miffed. EK is looking to maximize $ for its F seats, not upgrades from C using miles. If they offered these seats as miles upgrades (2 months in advance), people would be less likely to actually buy F tickets for $.


You obviously did not read my post - the DXB/LGW leg was upgraded with miles at the time of booking ( in March\) so your argument is pointless. Also it is J not C in EK speak!

I did read it, unfortunately, but will "obviously" not be reading your posts going forward.

DYKWIA Dec 11, 2023 11:51 pm


Originally Posted by JudeS (Post 35814663)
Actually SYD/DXB has three flights a day - exactly the same as DXB/LGW which is already upgraded.

I said LON as in the city... There are 12 flights per day.

thijsseh Dec 12, 2023 2:50 am


Originally Posted by JudeS (Post 35813170)
I have to say that I am feeling slightly miffed that as a Gold member (on my own dollar), I have been unable to upgrade from J to F on a Flex ticket booked back in March for travel at the end of January (SYD/DXB with DXB/LGW already upgraded to F).. I have auto upgrade enabled and have called EK on many occasions to check but even when Expert Flyer showed F wide open there were still no upgrades available. This is still the case, although there are now 4 seats reserved in the F cabin. What do you reckon are my chances?

The issue is that J to F upgrades ex SYD are (notoriously?) difficult to get. There are several posts on the EK forum which tell us about that.
As also mentioned by DYKWIA, LGW is a completely different proposition, it is not really that much of a 'premium' route (LHR is) and I have never struggled to get an upgrade there (in either direction). So, as mentioned by others, don't try to draw to many parallels between those two stations.
Impossible to predict your chances. Do not count on auto upgrade, it is unreliable. if they make more seats available, it will most likely be in the last 2 or 3 days. Otherwise try at the airport, although you will then not be able to get the 'though upgrade' mileage rate.

Vasicek Dec 12, 2023 3:11 am


Originally Posted by NYC1 (Post 35807238)
So what happened? I guess you didn't upgrade and test it out?

Nope - didn’t think it was worth it without access to the F lounge (I had several hours to kill at DXB so that would have tipped the balance).

m3red Dec 12, 2023 4:40 am


Originally Posted by Vasicek (Post 35815776)
Nope - didn’t think it was worth it without access to the F lounge (I had several hours to kill at DXB so that would have tipped the balance).

j to f gives access to f lounge of course

Vasicek Dec 12, 2023 4:47 am


Originally Posted by m3red (Post 35815898)
j to f gives access to f lounge of course

that was certainly always my understanding and experience, so was very surprised to be told otherwise!

m3red Dec 12, 2023 8:39 pm


Originally Posted by Vasicek (Post 35815914)
that was certainly always my understanding and experience, so was very surprised to be told otherwise!

whoever said is wrong

ijgordon Dec 15, 2023 2:09 pm


Originally Posted by JudeS (Post 35813323)
You obviously did not read my post - the DXB/LGW leg was upgraded with miles at the time of booking ( in March\) so your argument is pointless. Also it is J not C in EK speak!

Their willingness to clear an upgrade is directly related (inversely) to their belief that they can sell the seat for cash. That varies significantly by route, but also by how far in advance the flight is. And they have lots of historical data on ticket purchase patterns by which to gauge that likelihood. Presumably they already found 4 people willing to buy the seat to SYD, and today, they think they will find more. If they don’t, they’ll open the seat(s) for rewards and upgrades.


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