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ah1135 Jan 8, 2021 9:31 am

Help with EK 77W Seating
 
Can someone please advise if any of the EK boeing 777 currently servicing the USA have flat beds in business class? EK advertises flat beds on their site for all buss routes but we all know that is false. I tried seat guru and expert flyer but its not accurate plus I do understand the last minute possibilities of aircraft swap. Is there a site or list of routes being serviced by the new boeing 777?

IntrepidAfrican2 Jan 8, 2021 10:48 am


Originally Posted by patwa (Post 26455587)
Hi there,

I write further to my other post. As I'm visually impaired I'm not able to see the seat maps for aircraft to pick my seat and would be grateful for your help.

I was wondering if anyone could recommend the best window seats on an Emirates Boeing 777-300? My mum's travelling with me so we'd like to sit together, plus it makes it easier for her to help me if needed during the flight. If we need to sit one behind the other we'd take that as well. However, I'd like to be away from the wings blocking any view from the window and on the top deck of the aircraft and that's where I need the help with the seat maps.

Could anyone please suggest seat numbers I can try to reserve for our flight? I'd also like to be on the left hand side of the plane, so in seats J or K.

Thanks very much in advance for your help.

All the best for now and take care.

Hussein.

Could you confirm which class you’re in?

Will08 Jan 8, 2021 3:01 pm


Originally Posted by IntrepidAfrican (Post 32951002)
Could you confirm which class you’re in?

2016

ft101 Jan 8, 2021 9:41 pm


Originally Posted by ah1135 (Post 32950752)
Can someone please advise if any of the EK boeing 777 currently servicing the USA have flat beds in business class? EK advertises flat beds on their site for all buss routes but we all know that is false. I tried seat guru and expert flyer but its not accurate plus I do understand the last minute possibilities of aircraft swap. Is there a site or list of routes being serviced by the new boeing 777?

If you put the flight numbers into flightradar or similar, look for tail numbers A6-EPV onwards for the fully flat. Prior to that they are angled, but still flat.

IntrepidAfrican2 Jan 9, 2021 1:17 am


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 32951853)
2016

dopey me

Will08 Jan 9, 2021 2:48 am


Originally Posted by ah1135 (Post 32950752)
Can someone please advise if any of the EK boeing 777 currently servicing the USA have flat beds in business class? EK advertises flat beds on their site for all buss routes but we all know that is false. I tried seat guru and expert flyer but its not accurate plus I do understand the last minute possibilities of aircraft swap. Is there a site or list of routes being serviced by the new boeing 777?

I think I’d rather gamble on loads being quiet and try to grab a row of four in economy over sitting in an EK 777 J seat. I was in one for 5 hours a few days ago and that was long enough, never mind a US-DXB flight.

DYKWIA Jan 9, 2021 3:22 am


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 32953131)
I think I’d rather gamble on loads being quiet and try to grab a row of four in economy over sitting in an EK 777 J seat. I was in one for 5 hours a few days ago and that was long enough, never mind a US-DXB flight.

There's nowt as queer as folk :)

Will08 Jan 9, 2021 3:43 am


Originally Posted by DYKWIA (Post 32953194)
There's nowt as queer as folk :)

Have you watched the video of the new premium economy? There isn't much difference between it and a 777 J seat... I find it more comfortable lay across four economy seats.

DYKWIA Jan 9, 2021 3:51 am


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 32953231)
Have you watched the video of the new premium economy? There isn't much difference between it and a 777 J seat... I find it more comfortable lay across four economy seats.

Apart from the fact the J seat is fully flat, is wider and has a ton more legroom you mean? And when the seat in front reclines, it reclines into your space.

If I lay on 4 economy, I'd be on the floor the first time I rolled onto my side :)

ah1135 Jan 9, 2021 6:56 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 32952809)
If you put the flight numbers into flightradar or similar, look for tail numbers A6-EPV onwards for the fully flat. Prior to that they are angled, but still flat.

Thanks will look into this

ah1135 Jan 9, 2021 7:00 am


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 32953131)
I think I’d rather gamble on loads being quiet and try to grab a row of four in economy over sitting in an EK 777 J seat. I was in one for 5 hours a few days ago and that was long enough, never mind a US-DXB flight.

Yeah not sure why a "world class" airline cant refresh or run newer aircrafts on 5 plus hour flights. Should be no excuse for it. Was hoping to burn my Alaska miles prior to March, have a bad feeling those stop overs will be eliminated or charts will get devalued once they join Oneworld. Would burn it on SQ but those awards have been pulled off from partner sites

kq747 Jan 9, 2021 10:56 am


Originally Posted by ah1135 (Post 32953503)
Yeah not sure why a "world class" airline cant refresh or run newer aircrafts on 5 plus hour flights. Should be no excuse for it. Was hoping to burn my Alaska miles prior to March, have a bad feeling those stop overs will be eliminated or charts will get devalued once they join Oneworld. Would burn it on SQ but those awards have been pulled off from partner sites

The new J is only about 31/150 777s so they couldnt really ensure all 5+ hour flights have them. They do generally seem to use them for ULH routes where possible

DYKWIA Jan 9, 2021 11:55 am


Originally Posted by ah1135 (Post 32953503)
Yeah not sure why a "world class" airline cant refresh or run newer aircrafts on 5 plus hour flights. Should be no excuse for it. Was hoping to burn my Alaska miles prior to March, have a bad feeling those stop overs will be eliminated or charts will get devalued once they join Oneworld. Would burn it on SQ but those awards have been pulled off from partner sites

Why would you want to use your AS miles on an airline product that you don't like?

Will08 Jan 9, 2021 7:11 pm


Originally Posted by DYKWIA (Post 32953242)
Apart from the fact the J seat is fully flat, is wider and has a ton more legroom you mean? And when the seat in front reclines, it reclines into your space.

If I lay on 4 economy, I'd be on the floor the first time I rolled onto my side :)

This fully flat remark people use to defend EKs 777 J seat is none sense. You are still at an angle and feel like you are being pushed down your seat when you are trying to sleep.

At least with using four seats in economy you don't have to climb over anyone to use the bathroom...

m3red Jan 10, 2021 2:20 am


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 32955210)
This fully flat remark people use to defend EKs 777 J seat is none sense. You are still at an angle and feel like you are being pushed down your seat when you are trying to sleep.

At least with using four seats in economy you don't have to climb over anyone to use the bathroom...

just take an aisle seat?

No one would seriously take 4 y seats over a J seat for a long flight. The seats are comfortable enough to sleep in and the service and TV is miles better.

DYKWIA Jan 10, 2021 3:53 am


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 32955210)
This fully flat remark people use to defend EKs 777 J seat is none sense. You are still at an angle and feel like you are being pushed down your seat when you are trying to sleep.

At least with using four seats in economy you don't have to climb over anyone to use the bathroom...

The angle of the B777 J seat is slight. When you consider that a B777 flies with a ~3 degree nose up attitude, it's effectively horizontal. So, when you say you "feel" as if you're being pushed down, it's just that - a "feeling".

If anything, the flatbed B777 and A380 seats are angled backwards, with your feet slightly above your head (which isn't good for sleeping). There was one guy on the BA forum that used to insist on sleeping the wrong way round - with his head at the end of the bed. Some cabin crew were OK with that, some insisted it was a safety issue.

I'm no fan of the EK B777 J seat, and I'll actively avoid it, but to say it's worse than Y or PE is just "none sense". Or as Phil Collins would say :-

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...64ad2e28da.png

Will08 Jan 10, 2021 5:11 am


Originally Posted by m3red (Post 32955681)
just take an aisle seat?

No one would seriously take 4 y seats over a J seat for a long flight. The seats are comfortable enough to sleep in and the service and TV is miles better.

The TV wasn't mentioned - no debate with that, however, taking an aisle seat just means you have someone climbing over you.. not ideal when the individual next to you lacks some basic personal hygiene. Flown much out of TUN?


Originally Posted by DYKWIA (Post 32955779)
The angle of the B777 J seat is slight. When you consider that a B777 flies with a ~3 degree nose up attitude, it's effectively horizontal. So, when you say you "feel" as if you're being pushed down, it's just that - a "feeling".

If anything, the flatbed B777 and A380 seats are angled backwards, with your feet slightly above your head (which isn't good for sleeping). There was one guy on the BA forum that used to insist on sleeping the wrong way round - with his head at the end of the bed. Some cabin crew were OK with that, some insisted it was a safety issue.

I'm no fan of the EK B777 J seat, and I'll actively avoid it, but to say it's worse than Y or PE is just "none sense". Or as Phil Collins would say :-

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...64ad2e28da.png

Queer and now Nonce... people get thrown in FT jail for far less!

m3red Jan 10, 2021 5:51 am


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 32955855)
The TV wasn't mentioned - no debate with that, however, taking an aisle seat just means you have someone climbing over you.. not ideal when the individual next to you lacks some basic personal hygiene. Flown much out of TUN?



Queer and now Nonce... people get thrown in FT jail for far less!

if you are in y you’d have people all over the place - one neighbour is far preferable.

I rarely fly solo these days so my annoying neighbour is my son or wife 😂

thijsseh Jan 10, 2021 7:33 am


Originally Posted by DYKWIA (Post 32955779)
The angle of the B777 J seat is slight. When you consider that a B777 flies with a ~3 degree nose up attitude, it's effectively horizontal. So, when you say you "feel" as if you're being pushed down, it's just that - a "feeling".

If anything, the flatbed B777 and A380 seats are angled backwards, with your feet slightly above your head (which isn't good for sleeping). There was one guy on the BA forum that used to insist on sleeping the wrong way round - with his head at the end of the bed. Some cabin crew were OK with that, some insisted it was a safety issue.

I'm no fan of the EK B777 J seat, and I'll actively avoid it, but to say it's worse than Y or PE is just "none sense". Or as Phil Collins would say :-

Exactly. I have flown many many miles in 77W J seats ans have always slept well. Never found myself being ‘pushed down’
Yes, the aisle access may be a problem for some. But I have no ‘old man bladder problem’ (yet). I go to the toilet once before I go to sleep and that’s it. My flights are usually 9 hours (CPT/DXB vv).

Do I prefer the A380? Yes. On the few routes where they fly both aircraft I’ll go for the 380 if I can. But this ranting against the 77W product is ‘snowflake behaviour’ if you ask me.

iFlyMoreThanYou Jan 10, 2021 8:49 am


Originally Posted by m3red (Post 32955681)
just take an aisle seat?

No one would seriously take 4 y seats over a J seat for a long flight. The seats are comfortable enough to sleep in and the service and TV is miles better.

the J seat is narrow - some people on here work out. Id much rather have 4 empty y seats.

Will08 Jan 10, 2021 6:35 pm


Originally Posted by thijsseh (Post 32956046)
Exactly. I have flown many many miles in 77W J seats ans have always slept well. Never found myself being ‘pushed down’
Yes, the aisle access may be a problem for some. But I have no ‘old man bladder problem’ (yet). I go to the toilet once before I go to sleep and that’s it. My flights are usually 9 hours (CPT/DXB vv).

Do I prefer the A380? Yes. On the few routes where they fly both aircraft I’ll go for the 380 if I can. But this ranting against the 77W product is ‘snowflake behaviour’ if you ask me.

You were pulling out the 'I'm offended" card a few weeks back to a joke comment not even directed at you, now you are accusing me of snow flake behaviour? It is hardly a rant. I find sleeping across 4 economy seats more comfortable as opposed to a 777 J seat and at the moment there is a good chance of getting 4 seats to yourself (my routes). Also if you are only going for one slash in 9 hours you really need to start hydrating more.


Originally Posted by iFlyMoreThanYou (Post 32956206)
the J seat is narrow - some people on here work out. Id much rather have 4 empty y seats.

Yes and no belly overhang!

m3red Jan 10, 2021 9:49 pm


Originally Posted by iFlyMoreThanYou (Post 32956206)
the J seat is narrow - some people on here work out. Id much rather have 4 empty y seats.

be sure to let the IO team know your preference and they’ll be sure to accommodate your request for your 77w flights.

iFlyMoreThanYou Jan 11, 2021 2:07 am


Originally Posted by m3red (Post 32958057)
be sure to let the IO team know your preference and they’ll be sure to accommodate your request for your 77w flights.

Not sure what your obsession with IO is, but I've already done that and have a row of 3 blocked on my flights.

thijsseh Jan 11, 2021 2:47 am


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 32957633)
You were pulling out the 'I'm offended" card a few weeks back to a joke comment not even directed at you, now you are accusing me of snow flake behaviour? It is hardly a rant. I find sleeping across 4 economy seats more comfortable as opposed to a 777 J seat and at the moment there is a good chance of getting 4 seats to yourself (my routes). Also if you are only going for one slash in 9 hours you really need to start hydrating more.



Yes and no belly overhang!

I was not trying to 'accuse' you on a personal level and if you interpreted my post like that, I sincerely apologise. I really try not to offend people here, it is against the rules and very much against the spirit of FlyerTalk. Sometimes I try to get my point across in a way that may sound like it is meant personally. It very seldom (if ever) is meant like that.

BadoRas Jan 11, 2021 4:05 am


Originally Posted by iFlyMoreThanYou (Post 32958342)
Not sure what your obsession with IO is, but I've already done that and have a row of 3 blocked on my flights.

Indeed.


Originally Posted by iFlyMoreThanYou (Post 32958342)
Not sure what your obsession with IO is, but I've already done that and have a row of 3 blocked on my flights.

Jealousy, pure and simple

m3red Jan 12, 2021 8:25 am


Originally Posted by BadoRas (Post 32958445)
Indeed.



Jealousy, pure and simple

I don’t need status I have the means to fund travel in my desired class of travel.

Back to topic - 77w J is fine for shorter flights - longer ones it needs to be F. 380 J is better with the direct aisle access.


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