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Emirates baggage interline to Qantas on different PNR?

Old Oct 6, 20, 5:10 am
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Emirates baggage interline to Qantas on different PNR?

As per subject; have a J booking on Emirates from BCN -> AKL, and a seperate Qantas booking from AKL -> SYD. I'm not permitted to leave transit area in AKL, so cannot re-check bag.

Any idea on the likelihood that Emirates will interline the bag, or other creative solutions I can use to solve this problem? The other booking departs > 24hrs after the initial departure, if that has any impact.
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Old Oct 6, 20, 9:07 am
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I think your main issue is the > 24 hour "connection". Even if it were the same PNR, I believe 24 hours is the maximum.

Some airports have a service that will pick up and re-check your bags. I did a quick search, but I couldn't see anything at AKL.

No chance you could change your flight to a direct DXB-SYD?
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Old Oct 6, 20, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by DYKWIA
I think your main issue is the > 24 hour "connection". Even if it were the same PNR, I believe 24 hours is the maximum.

Some airports have a service that will pick up and re-check your bags. I did a quick search, but I couldn't see anything at AKL.

No chance you could change your flight to a direct DXB-SYD?
The OP mentions that the second flight leaves >24 hours after DEPARTURE of the first flight (at least that is how I would interpret his / her post). I don’t think that is material in this case.i agree with you that a >24 connection would kill the possibility.
My expectation (but no guarantee) is that EK would interline the luggage in question. EK is generally good with interlining especially tp a partner like Qantas. I know another ( even OW) airline which would not even think of doing it.....
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Old Oct 6, 20, 10:25 am
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Whether the time in AKL is a connection or a stopover will not matter. The bags would not be checked across a 24+ hour time-frame on one ticket. OP will need to make specific arrangements and should not rely on what "might" work.
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Old Oct 6, 20, 11:08 am
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To clarify the connection is 4hrs; but it's a very long flight and hence that final QF leg departs more than 24hrs later than the initial departure.

I've usually found EK to be good with interlining; and it seems QF & EK specifically have an agreement to interline even on seperate PNRs; but the duration of the flight is indeed a concern.

There's absolutely no other way feasible to get to Australia right now, so this is my only option. Fingers crossed, really :-)
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Old Oct 6, 20, 11:20 am
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The duration of the flight is irrelevant. All that matters is the length of the transfer time, e.g. 4 hours (you do not have a connection).
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Old Oct 6, 20, 11:34 am
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Sorry - a transfer not a connection indeed.

So by your estimation; given that it's only 4hrs in AKL between the EK arrival and the QF departure, the total duration exceeding 24hrs should not make a difference?

Obviously I will need to acquire a boarding pass airside in AKL.
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Old Oct 6, 20, 12:44 pm
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There is no 24h travel time limit to determine whether luggage can be checked through. The only limit is the time between flights. If all of these are below 24, and they are, there is no problem at all.
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Old Oct 6, 20, 1:27 pm
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If EK do check your bags all the way through, it does no harm checking with QF ground staff in AKL that the bags have been transferred to them. Show them your luggage receipts and they can check.
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Old Oct 6, 20, 1:57 pm
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Originally Posted by VolandoMe
As per subject; have a J booking on Emirates from BCN -> AKL, and a seperate Qantas booking from AKL -> SYD. I'm not permitted to leave transit area in AKL, so cannot re-check bag.

Any idea on the likelihood that Emirates will interline the bag, or other creative solutions I can use to solve this problem? The other booking departs > 24hrs after the initial departure, if that has any impact.
Originally Posted by VolandoMe
To clarify the connection is 4hrs; but it's a very long flight and hence that final QF leg departs more than 24hrs later than the initial departure.

I've usually found EK to be good with interlining; and it seems QF & EK specifically have an agreement to interline even on seperate PNRs; but the duration of the flight is indeed a concern.

There's absolutely no other way feasible to get to Australia right now, so this is my only option. Fingers crossed, really :-)
When are you flying?
As EK is taking you to New Zealand they will check if you has passport/documentation to enter New Zealand. In these Covid-19 times, or even in pre/post Covid-19 times, is a big risk if EK would accept an NZ-AU ticket in lieu of NZ documentation. Based on my recent experience based on a flight AU to NZ (on Air NZ), EK will phone NZ immigration to check if you can enter NZ before issuing a boarding pass. In November NZ are introducing a pre booked isolation voucher system that must be presented to the airline before issuing a boarding pass, Assume this replaces the phone call.

QF is not yet flying AU<--->NZ, but is selling tickets. Is based on no AU 14 day isolation on arrival, as a result of the proposed NZ-->AU (one way) "bubble". Mixing covid-19 risk and risk free (ex NZ) passengers will not happen. Coming from where ever via DXB you will be a Covid-19 risk. The AU Gov has yet to issue all the details of this NZ--AU no isolation/covid-19 free travel. I expect all people on these QF flights will need to have been in (Covid-19 free) New Zealand for at lest 14 days.

I assume you can enter Australia. (AU passport?)
EK & QR are flying to Australia

Going the other way QF will interline to EK on separate tickets


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Old Oct 6, 20, 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
When are you flying?
As EK is taking you to New Zealand they will check if you has passport/documentation to enter New Zealand. In these Covid-19 times, or even in pre/post Covid-19 times, is a big risk if EK would accept an NZ-AU ticket in lieu of NZ documentation. Based on my recent experience based on a flight AU to NZ (on Air NZ), EK will phone NZ immigration to check if you can enter NZ before issuing a boarding pass. In November NZ are introducing a pre booked isolation voucher system that must be presented to the airline before issuing a boarding pass, Assume this replaces the phone call.

QF is not yet flying AU<--->NZ, but is selling tickets. Is based on no AU 14 day isolation on arrival, as a result of the proposed NZ-->AU (one way) "bubble". Mixing covid-19 risk and risk free (ex NZ) passengers will not happen. Coming from where ever via DXB you will be a Covid-19 risk. The AU Gov has yet to issue all the details of this NZ--AU no isolation/covid-19 free travel. I expect all people on these QF flights will need to have been in (Covid-19 free) New Zealand for at lest 14 days.

I assume you can enter Australia. (AU passport?)
EK & QR are flying to Australia

Going the other way QF will interline to EK on separate tickets


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I totally agree. If you're a returning Australian citizen, you can fly direct EK BCN-DXB-SYD and do the quarantine.

As you seem not to be considering this simple solution, I assume you are not an Australian citizen. It appears to me that you're wanting to take advantage of an anticipated AUS-NZ "bubble" to get into Australia.

To fly in that bubble (when created), you need to be a NZ citizen or someone who has been quarantined in NZ for at least 14 days and is certificated COVID-free.

I'm not even sure that you will be allowed to fly to NZ either. It's my understanding that NZ is also only accepting returning citizens.

If this is an attempt by a non-AUS and non-NZ citizen to get into Australia by the back door, I don't think this will work. Nor should it. Quite simply you are a COVID risk and you should know better.

Apart from an unfortunate situation in my state of Victoria (which has been excellently handled and brought under control), Australia has generally done a great job of containing this virus.

There is a ban on non-residents coming here because it is well recognised that travellers into the country are a very high potential source of the virus, and so the sensible decision has been made to not allow non-residents to enter this country. And I applaud that decision, it just makes good sense. Unlike so many other countries like the UK, we have not succumbed to the madness of unfettered international travel. We can see how the UK is suffering, partly due to ease of travel across borders. They too should know better.

I would like nothing more than to be airborne again and back doing what I do in UAE and Africa, but I am content to wait until the restrictions are relaxed.

And you should be too.

Apologies if my assumption about your nationality is incorrect, but you don't mention this in your post. Perhaps you could enlighten us.
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Old Oct 6, 20, 5:21 pm
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Strictly speaking I'm off-topic here, but I'm speaking to the underlying reason that you're needing to ask these questions in the first place.

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Old Oct 7, 20, 2:03 am
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Mwenenzi is right.

You have indicated that you are not permitted to go airside at AKL which means, presumably, that you are not permitted to enter NZ and therefore you will not even get to AKL to get on the QF flight. This is because if you are not permitted to enter NZ, you will be denied boarding at either BCN or DXB.

If you are not an Australian PR or citizen, you wont be permitted into Australia.

This assumes this trip is within the next 3 months.

Things may change, however, it will still come down to whether you are permitted to enter NZ under NZs rules.
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Old Oct 7, 20, 2:40 am
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You are indeed incorrect. I'm an AU citizen attempting to return home without paying the $10K+ asking price of a ticket direct to Sydney. Nothing more underhand than that.
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Old Oct 7, 20, 3:52 am
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Originally Posted by VolandoMe
You are indeed incorrect. I'm an AU citizen attempting to return home without paying the $10K+ asking price of a ticket direct to Sydney. Nothing more underhand than that.
Which shows all of us how useful it is to give as much relevant information as possible when asking a question. A lot of unnecessary posting would have been avoided if we all had been aware of the citizenship and the reason for what looks like a really unusual routing. I can understand the irritation that was kindled by the possibility that the OP was trying an 'inventive' way to get into Australia.
This , by the way, does not only apply to the OP of this thread, but to numerous postings on FT (IMHO).
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