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iFlyMoreThanYou May 2, 2020 10:10 am


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 32343191)
If it makes you feel any better the experience of Plat is not much different to Gold. My bags missed just as many connections (if not more) whilst I have been plat, when my bags did arrive, at best they would arrive with J luggage but at times would come out with Y luggage even though you are supposed to get priority - it has actually become a running joke with my mrs not to bother putting red tags on our bags. Some pursers would still speak to you like it is your first time flying, for eg - 'If you want to upgrade with miles you need to have enough in your account' (in a condescending tone), Denied boarding twice, when flying Y being told "if you need anything let me know" means absolutely nothing. Even Op-ups, I got just as many as Gold as I have as plat but obviously there are a lot of factors in plat for that.

For me, the whole flying experience is solely down to the purser and the crew. When you get a good crew they will be great whether you are plat or gold or I guess no status, whereas if you get a poor crew, your status is irrelevant from the moment you receive your on board welcome.

Completely agree. I have had my luggage arrive from the last container before, after all Y bags. It really has become a joke. For me, the only benefit I value as Plat is on top of the upgrade list as my travel for work is all in Y. And while the lounge is nicer than the J lounge at dxb, I rarely have time because I prefer to arrive very late to the airport.

You really wont miss much if you dont get to plat, especially if u are already flying J.

S.R May 2, 2020 4:39 pm


Originally Posted by iFlyMoreThanYou (Post 32343241)
Completely agree. I have had my luggage arrive from the last container before, after all Y bags. It really has become a joke. For me, the only benefit I value as Plat is on top of the upgrade list as my travel for work is all in Y. And while the lounge is nicer than the J lounge at dxb, I rarely have time because I prefer to arrive very late to the airport.

You really wont miss much if you dont get to plat, especially if u are already flying J.

One slight benefit of Plat is if you're in A380 F on an elite heavy route, the first choice for shower slot is beneficial since the ones close to landing do fill up. But you're right, EK doesn't make it very exciting to reach Plat if you're already in F or J. I think EK Plat is one of those tiers that isn't very aspirational, ie you don't try to fly more to reach it. You just end up getting it because you have to fly that much.
I would like to be iO though :D

ft101 May 2, 2020 6:42 pm


Originally Posted by lost_in_translation (Post 32342710)
So instead of being Platinum at the end of May, I'll have earnt ... Blue.

You'll retain Silver at least until the end of the year I think

Emirates Skywards Silver, Gold and Platinum members, with a tier status review between March 2020 and September 2020 who are unable to retain their existing tier, will have their existing status extended until 31 December 2020.

iFlyMoreThanYou May 2, 2020 9:04 pm


Originally Posted by S.R (Post 32344101)
One slight benefit of Plat is if you're in A380 F on an elite heavy route, the first choice for shower slot is beneficial since the ones close to landing do fill up. But you're right, EK doesn't make it very exciting to reach Plat if you're already in F or J. I think EK Plat is one of those tiers that isn't very aspirational, ie you don't try to fly more to reach it. You just end up getting it because you have to fly that much.
I would like to be iO though :D

This indeed is an excellent point. I forgot about this as I'm usually at the main deck!

Another small benefit which I do enjoy: S class CDD/CDA in DXB, even when travelling in J. That small headrest pillow is amazing!

And just to add to Will08's point on crew: status doesn't really matter. It really depends if you or someone you know, knows the crew on your flight. I've had J class meals in Y when I was in blue, while being rejected a bottle of water as a plat...

m3red May 2, 2020 10:49 pm


Originally Posted by S.R (Post 32344101)
One slight benefit of Plat is if you're in A380 F on an elite heavy route, the first choice for shower slot is beneficial since the ones close to landing do fill up. But you're right, EK doesn't make it very exciting to reach Plat if you're already in F or J. I think EK Plat is one of those tiers that isn't very aspirational, ie you don't try to fly more to reach it. You just end up getting it because you have to fly that much.
I would like to be iO though :D

they don’t even do this consistently

thijsseh May 3, 2020 12:32 am


Originally Posted by m3red (Post 32344564)
they don’t even do this consistently

Lol, not getting your preferred shower slot must be in the running for ‘the most first world problem’ ever. :D

lost_in_translation May 3, 2020 3:03 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 32344286)
You'll retain Silver at least until the end of the year I think

Emirates Skywards Silver, Gold and Platinum members, with a tier status review between March 2020 and September 2020 who are unable to retain their existing tier, will have their existing status extended until 31 December 2020.

I get that which is definitely better than nothing, but my point was more it just feels a bit odd that I'm being demoted back to Blue again shortly when I was only a couple of thousand Tier Miles away from Gold with months of my earning year left and was left with no possibility of taking any more flights. Weird consequence of how Skywards renewal system works in your first year and is basically going to mean I probably go back to only using QR and WY in future, which surely isn't what EK intended to achieve.

lost_in_translation May 3, 2020 3:06 am


Originally Posted by S.R (Post 32344101)
One slight benefit of Plat is if you're in A380 F on an elite heavy route, the first choice for shower slot is beneficial since the ones close to landing do fill up. But you're right, EK doesn't make it very exciting to reach Plat if you're already in F or J. I think EK Plat is one of those tiers that isn't very aspirational, ie you don't try to fly more to reach it. You just end up getting it because you have to fly that much.
I would like to be iO though :D

I'm not sure if you should chalk that up as a 'former' benefit of Plat, could be a long time before there are a significant number of A380s flying again and probably even longer before F is full on them!

iFlyMoreThanYou May 3, 2020 4:18 am


Originally Posted by lost_in_translation (Post 32344856)
I'm not sure if you should chalk that up as a 'former' benefit of Plat, could be a long time before there are a significant number of A380s flying again and probably even longer before F is full on them!

I think most on FT need a reality check: while they say to do, airlines do not care about loyalty programmes. True loyalty is dead. Loyalty programmes are data farms and nothing more.

ElJudioErrante May 3, 2020 8:16 am


Originally Posted by iFlyMoreThanYou (Post 32344944)
I think most on FT need a reality check: while they say to do, airlines do not care about loyalty programmes. True loyalty is dead. Loyalty programmes are data farms and nothing more.

Loyalty programmes are valuable mailing lists and can be/are tailored for targeted promos.

redeternet7 May 4, 2020 2:57 am

My sibling had their Silver Tier turn back to blue (now its May 2020, with the 12+1 month rule)

Emirates announce they will extend all Tier statues until December 2020, has anyone successfully had their status extended?

ElJudioErrante May 4, 2020 3:22 am


Originally Posted by redeternet7 (Post 32347034)
My sibling had their Silver Tier turn back to blue (now its May 2020, with the 12+1 month rule)

Emirates announce they will extend all Tier statues until December 2020, has anyone successfully had their status extended?

My requalification date was 30 Apr 2020, on 01 May that was extended (showing on App) by another 6 months.

ft101 May 4, 2020 6:59 pm

Requal date was 31st March and now showing 31st October, which is neither 6 months nor the end of December. It does however say the latest status might not show immediately so I'll just wait and see what happens.

moral_low_ground May 6, 2020 12:45 am

My Silver expiration date is Aug 31st and still shows as that.

Bit confused over EK's policy with miles. I have a load that are due to expire 31st Dec 2020 and got an email saying that EK was extending the validity and now they won't expire until Dec 2020 ????

If I login I get the message "xx,xxx Miles to expire on Invalid date" but if I look at my statement it still says my miles will expire end of this year. Hopefully EK give me another year or else just does the decent thing and scrap stupid expirary dates (like UA have done) or extend them ad infinitum if there is activity (like just about everyone else).

iFlyMoreThanYou May 10, 2020 9:56 am

Rumor has it status extensions of 6 months are currently under consideration

m3red May 10, 2020 10:13 am


Originally Posted by iFlyMoreThanYou (Post 32363734)
Rumor has it status extensions of 6 months are currently under consideration

so how did you get i\o flying Y?

sealsgod May 10, 2020 10:38 am


Originally Posted by iFlyMoreThanYou (Post 32363734)
Rumor has it status extensions of 6 months are currently under consideration

6 months is still too less, it should be same as hotel extend for a year even more. also some airline already extend their program by giving tier points to member account. there is no harmful as when every things back to normal, if I have nothing benefit on this airline, it is very easy for pax change their FFP to others company.

iFlyMoreThanYou May 10, 2020 10:55 am


Originally Posted by m3red (Post 32363773)
so how did you get i\o flying Y?

My girlfriend put in a good word for me ;)

In all seriousness, not sure why - the pack was with my assistant in the morning

iFlyMoreThanYou May 10, 2020 10:56 am


Originally Posted by sealsgod (Post 32363844)
6 months is still too less, it should be same as hotel extend for a year even more. also some airline already extend their program by giving tier points to member account. there is no harmful as when every things back to normal, if I have nothing benefit on this airline, it is very easy for pax change their FFP to others company.

Ek is not really known to be generous. Airlines dont really care about loyalty programmes, anyway.

S.R May 10, 2020 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by iFlyMoreThanYou (Post 32363885)
My girlfriend put in a good word for me ;)

In all seriousness, not sure why - the pack was with my assistant in the morning

Congrats! Now I’m curious how much you’ve spent with EK over the past year. If so much of your travel is in Y, not sure how you qualified since you probably still didn’t spend as much as we thought was required for iO.
Maybe they’re loosening the requirements to some of the more frequent flyers to give an incentive to fly more once operations resume normally again? Just a guess

thijsseh May 10, 2020 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by iFlyMoreThanYou (Post 32363885)
My girlfriend put in a good word for me ;)

In all seriousness, not sure why - the pack was with my assistant in the morning

Gosh, iO. What benefits does that give you above Plat? Or is that ‘confidential’?

Will08 May 10, 2020 2:47 pm


Originally Posted by iFlyMoreThanYou (Post 32363885)
My girlfriend put in a good word for me ;)

In all seriousness, not sure why - the pack was with my assistant in the morning

Would be interesting to see if you still get CD in Y in the current climate...

iFlyMoreThanYou May 10, 2020 7:36 pm


Originally Posted by S.R (Post 32364092)
Congrats! Now I’m curious how much you’ve spent with EK over the past year. If so much of your travel is in Y, not sure how you qualified since you probably still didn’t spend as much as we thought was required for iO.
Maybe they’re loosening the requirements to some of the more frequent flyers to give an incentive to fly more once operations resume normally again? Just a guess

that's what I'm thinking, I had a few flights in paid J and F last year, maybe 15? The rest (80-90?) were all in Y or upgrades. My company also isnt a high spender with EK so I'm not sure what prompted this, I had a ridiculous amount of tier miles but relatively low spend. It wouldnt surprise me if this is an incentive to get me to fly again and only lasts a year.


Originally Posted by thijsseh (Post 32364323)
Gosh, iO. What benefits does that give you above Plat? Or is that ‘confidential’?

Dont believe they're confidential but with the current climate I dont really know what to expect. I dont really think there are benefits over platinum. For example, I rarely use the CD (2h cut off) when I do fly J/F. I arrive at dxb 50min before departure so I dont have time for the lounge eithee but it does add unnecessary attention. The way I see it is higher chance of getting an upgrade!


Originally Posted by Will08 (Post 32364405)
Would be interesting to see if you still get CD in Y in the current climate...

To think EY would offer this to their gold members in the past!

ft101 May 10, 2020 8:20 pm


Originally Posted by iFlyMoreThanYou (Post 32363734)
Rumor has it status extensions of 6 months are currently under consideration

I'm confused. I thought this was already being done?

iFlyMoreThanYou May 10, 2020 8:26 pm


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 32365004)
I'm confused. I thought this was already being done?

i was under the impression it was 2 (3?) months and only for those with renewal dates up to december?

ft101 May 10, 2020 9:33 pm


Originally Posted by iFlyMoreThanYou (Post 32365015)
i was under the impression it was 2 (3?) months and only for those with renewal dates up to december?

March to September renewals extended to December, which from posts 52 & 53 on the previous page looks like it's status until October and the two month's additional privileges taking it to December.

New (to me) on the website is the line

We’re coming up with more ways to support you at this time, so keep your contact details up to date.
so hopefully something extra on the way.

sealsgod May 11, 2020 8:20 am

may be they will update everyone once everything resume to normal, that what i guess

Dambus May 12, 2020 6:52 pm

Incremental changes only...
 
Retaining tier status
Emirates Skywards Silver, Gold and Platinum members with a tier review date prior to 1 April 2021 will retain their current status for a further 12 months with just 70% of the usual travel requirements.
Extending tier status
Emirates Skywards Silver, Gold and Platinum members, with a tier status review between March 2020 and September 2020 who are unable to retain their existing tier, will have their existing status extended until 31 December 2020.

DYKWIA May 13, 2020 2:37 am

Great... Not! :mad:

sealsgod May 13, 2020 7:08 am

this is a very old announcement, since they stop flying in March already saying something like this I hope there will have a new update in July for better solution

Dambus May 20, 2020 3:16 am

Sigh...
 
In Dec/Jan I had just started to do some additional Asia travel and had enough booked over the summer to hit Plat for the first time by August.

Now, all trips cancelled and I am (under current rules) due to drop to Silver on my October 2020 renewal date.

All relative, I know....

BadoRas May 20, 2020 6:04 am


Originally Posted by Dambus (Post 32389610)
In Dec/Jan I had just started to do some additional Asia travel and had enough booked over the summer to hit Plat for the first time by August.

Now, all trips cancelled and I am (under current rules) due to drop to Silver on my October 2020 renewal date.

All relative, I know....

Don't sweat it. Platinum really doesn't mean that much!

Dambus Jun 6, 2020 11:40 am

2 more weeks behind us. Any hints or rumblings of updates to extended status?

S c 0 TT y Jun 11, 2020 6:35 am

BA have introduced a 12 month extension today, great gesture.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...12-months.html

KillaPowa Jun 16, 2020 5:23 am

Airlines need to realise (and I am sure they do) that Business travel will dramatically decrease....firms will have noted that they are paying for a great deal of non-essential travel, as well as belts tightening. Therefore competition will get fiercer and unless EK seriously re-jig Skywards to be remotely generous, it will be an issue for them.

S c 0 TT y Jun 16, 2020 5:41 am


Originally Posted by KillaPowa (Post 32460228)
Airlines need to realise (and I am sure they do) that Business travel will dramatically decrease....firms will have noted that they are paying for a great deal of non-essential travel, as well as belts tightening. Therefore competition will get fiercer and unless EK seriously re-jig Skywards to be remotely generous, it will be an issue for them.

aye aye to that. Was watching an interview of Qatar CEO a few days back and he said their biggest market (business travel) will be hit massively going forward as people get comfortable with Zoom meetings and calls.

I look forward to seeing what adjustments Skywards makes

DYKWIA Jun 16, 2020 6:37 am


Originally Posted by KillaPowa (Post 32460228)
Airlines need to realise (and I am sure they do) that Business travel will dramatically decrease....firms will have noted that they are paying for a great deal of non-essential travel, as well as belts tightening. Therefore competition will get fiercer and unless EK seriously re-jig Skywards to be remotely generous, it will be an issue for them.

Which companies choose their preferred airlines based on the frequent flyer scheme?

I know some people have the flexibility to choose their own flights to an extent, but the bigger companies have corporate deals.

lost_in_translation Jun 16, 2020 7:54 am


Originally Posted by DYKWIA (Post 32460390)
Which companies choose their preferred airlines based on the frequent flyer scheme?

I know some people have the flexibility to choose their own flights to an extent, but the bigger companies have corporate deals.

Companies don't, but a surprising number of business travelers either have complete flexibility on who they book with or choose from a list of corporate deals (a lot of big corporates don't just have one) where clearly they will consider their own mileage earning as part of the calculation. I also doubt EK has a similar percentage of revenue under corporate deals as the likes of BA/AA/UA.

sealsgod Jun 17, 2020 2:49 am

Company policy is just a policy, in final still can book the airline as you like, but just need to be having a good reason on choice your own

DYKWIA Jun 17, 2020 5:35 am


Originally Posted by sealsgod (Post 32462967)
Company policy is just a policy, in final still can book the airline as you like, but just need to be having a good reason on choice your own

That's not always true. With a lot of companies, flights are booked for you and you don't get a choice.


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