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Origin Open Jaw - no more Business Savers?

Old Jun 13, 19, 10:28 am
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Origin Open Jaw - no more Business Savers?

I've been looking at a AMS-DXB-MAN itinerary, and I've noticed that Business Savers are not available on the open jaw. If I do each leg separately (MAN-DXB-MAN & AMS-DXB-MAN), then all the legs show up as Business Saver being available.

I've tried it on a few Europe-DXB routes, and it seems to be pretty consistent.

What I have found is that they are still available if it's within the same country - LHR-DXB-MAN / DUS-DXB-FRA etc.

To be honest, I've only checked around 6 routes... so not comprehensive. But I wonder if this is another change? I guess it won't affect many people, but then, why would they do it?

Of course, it just be a glitch that will fix itself by tomorrow, and I'll look a fool

PS.. The Business Special fares don't seem to have made it to Europe yet
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Old Jun 13, 19, 6:32 pm
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Originally Posted by DYKWIA View Post
I've been looking at a AMS-DXB-MAN itinerary, and I've noticed that Business Savers are not available on the open jaw. If I do each leg separately (MAN-DXB-MAN & AMS-DXB-MAN), then all the legs show up as Business Saver being available.

I've tried it on a few Europe-DXB routes, and it seems to be pretty consistent.

What I have found is that they are still available if it's within the same country - LHR-DXB-MAN / DUS-DXB-FRA etc.

To be honest, I've only checked around 6 routes... so not comprehensive. But I wonder if this is another change? I guess it won't affect many people, but then, why would they do it?

Of course, it just be a glitch that will fix itself by tomorrow, and I'll look a fool

PS.. The Business Special fares don't seem to have made it to Europe yet
Open jaw using saver fares in both Y/J are only available AFAIK on EK returning to same country of origin.
I'd be interested to know of any exceptions as much of my air travel involves OJ
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Old Jun 14, 19, 1:22 am
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Originally Posted by ElJudioErrante View Post
Open jaw using saver fares in both Y/J are only available AFAIK on EK returning to same country of origin.
I'd be interested to know of any exceptions as much of my air travel involves OJ
I used to be able to price up AMS-DXB-MAN with J Savers. When did this change?
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Old Jun 14, 19, 1:28 am
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Originally Posted by DYKWIA View Post
I used to be able to price up AMS-DXB-MAN with J Savers. When did this change?
Looking on EF for a business saveer fare (O class) from AMS-DXB, the rules state

Originally Posted by EF
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
WITH EK FARES
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS WITH EK FARES
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY -FNL1/-SNL1/-PNL1/-RNL1
TYPE FARES WITH ANY RULE IN ANY PUBLIC TARIFF.
The NL1 restriction seems to be doing it; looking at historic fares in EF, that rule seems to have been there for a while; I class fares seem to be compatible with GB1 fares for open jaw

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Old Jun 14, 19, 1:29 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble View Post
Looking on EF for a business saveer fare from AMS-DXB, the rules state



The NL1 restriction seems to be doing it
Give me a clue What dies NL1 mean?
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Old Jun 14, 19, 1:45 am
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Originally Posted by DYKWIA View Post
Give me a clue What dies NL1 mean?
The last characters of the fare basis - in NL they are NL1 , in UK they are GB1
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Old Jun 14, 19, 3:09 am
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Originally Posted by DYKWIA View Post
Give me a clue What dies NL1 mean?
It basically says the fare is combinable with any other published fare to/from a station in the Netherlands, in any fare bucket. So you can go outbound J Saver and back Y Special, or F Flex Plus, or whatever. But it has to be back to NL(1).
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