777-300ER business class
#16
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Belfast/Dubai/Hong Kong
Programs: QR Gold/CX Silver/EK Silver/EY Gold/Spire Royal Ambassador/Hilton Diamond
Posts: 190
I beg to differ
qr beats ek hands down in all aspects. I just got off an ek 777 this afternoon from hong kong and i must say the seats are rubbish compared to the q suites i was on last month. The food on qr beats ek on every level. I dont drink on a plane so i really wont be able to compare that aspect of the trip. Aso no amenity kit was given on ek while i had an amenity kit along with white company pyjamas on qr. The only think ek might have a slight edge would be the entertainment. I would choose qr any day.
qr beats ek hands down in all aspects. I just got off an ek 777 this afternoon from hong kong and i must say the seats are rubbish compared to the q suites i was on last month. The food on qr beats ek on every level. I dont drink on a plane so i really wont be able to compare that aspect of the trip. Aso no amenity kit was given on ek while i had an amenity kit along with white company pyjamas on qr. The only think ek might have a slight edge would be the entertainment. I would choose qr any day.
#19
Moderator, Emirates
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Where My Heart Is
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I’m 6’3” and not skinny! Have had one of my best sleeps ever in an EK 77W J seat. Have had one of my worst journeys in a CX 77W J seat. EK A380 J seats on the whole are pretty good but not been totally comfortable on them all. BA J seats I don’t mind but again not been totally comfortable on them all.
A lot of it is personal preference, the wear and tear of the equipment and how tired/relaxed you are at the time. I know I’m going to have a comfortable flight on EK in F. Unfortunately I know that the same cannot be said when travelling J class on the three main airlines that I have used over the past 5-6 years. No seat seems to give the same comfort on the same airline.
YMMV
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A lot of it is personal preference, the wear and tear of the equipment and how tired/relaxed you are at the time. I know I’m going to have a comfortable flight on EK in F. Unfortunately I know that the same cannot be said when travelling J class on the three main airlines that I have used over the past 5-6 years. No seat seems to give the same comfort on the same airline.
YMMV
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#21
Join Date: Feb 2016
Programs: MM, EK, HH, etc.
Posts: 381
Agree that QR qsuites are far superior to ek 777 C. And so is the catering, at least to me, EK is mediocre at best. To me the EK 777 seats are just plain uncomfortable and simply not „lie flat“ enough (and don‘t even get me started on the 2-3-2 configuration ). Don‘t know about the new seats though, since I refuse to fly their 777 in C on anything other than regional trips, and most flights don’t even have them. I can also sympathize with the poster who had issues with the table, I have experienced that as well on the odd occasion on aircraft with worn equipment, where the old 2-piece tables have a habit of slanting and folding in the middle.
Personally can‘t quite fathom why some seem to rave about EK‘s 777 business cabin, but to each their own opinion.
Personally can‘t quite fathom why some seem to rave about EK‘s 777 business cabin, but to each their own opinion.
#24
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: EK Gold, A3 *G, AB Gold, Jetblue Mosaic
Posts: 1,386
#25
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,610
Two weeks ago I flew Seattle - Doha on qsuites, and just today I flew back Dubai - Seattle on Emirates 777-300 business class so I was able to make a fresh comparison.
Qatar business lounge seems way more luxurious and elevated than the long Emirates lounge. The offerings are mostly similar in both lounges (showers etc), except Qatar lounge has many lounge/daybed style options, their shower room is bigger, and their dining area feels like a proper restaurant. Much "nicer" experience.
Qatar offers dine-on-demand which is so so so much better. Like, noticeably infinitely better. On Emirates it was like pulling teeth asking for an extra appetizer or anything out of order (e.g. asking for lightbites before the main course etc). I was honestly a bit shocked that Emirates staff seemed hesitant or pushbacked to fulfill my request for an out-of-order snack or extra desert with a drink. They kept saying "well, we can do it but typiically we give lunch in an hour, and then light snacks on landing, are you sure?". And then made a face like it would be a bother so I was like "okay fine, i'll just do things as planned, I didn't realize we couldn't dine on demand". My last few flights on Qatar had gotten my used to dine on demand, had forgotten other airlines don't do things that way.
Emirates menu did not have any vegetarian lunch main course dining option by default (only beef/chicken/fish options), so you better preselect vegetarian. Qatar menu had veggie options by default. Again, I was a bit shocked by this given that 90% of the passengers on Emirates Seattle-Dubai route seemed like indian descent who are typically vegetarian.
I found Emirates 777-300 on Seattle route to be basically lie-flat, no issues there. Similar lie-flat to QSuites. No issues either way.
Emirates had a proper cocktail menu, which was better than Qatars.
Qatar's chai is better. Emirates coffee is better.
Emirate's ICE entertainment was way better.
Qatar wifi was slightly better (didn't seem to go off for two hours, while Emirates did go offline over the arctic). But maybe I didn't notice Qatar's going offline.
Qatar gives pajamas, which I wore on Emirates since they don't. Rest of basic amenity/dental etc kit is similar who cares
The QSuites are obviously guaranteed private, but in Emirates 2-3-2 I didn't have a neighbor so it was similarly private in window seat. No issues there as long as flight loads are low, very similar experience. It would definitely massively suck if you have a neighbor in the future higher Emirates flight loads. Total deal-breaker in that case if you're a single traveller.
Both airlines basically allow you to be mask-free when on the seat since no one is around to enforce it, so that was similar also.
Qatar business lounge seems way more luxurious and elevated than the long Emirates lounge. The offerings are mostly similar in both lounges (showers etc), except Qatar lounge has many lounge/daybed style options, their shower room is bigger, and their dining area feels like a proper restaurant. Much "nicer" experience.
Qatar offers dine-on-demand which is so so so much better. Like, noticeably infinitely better. On Emirates it was like pulling teeth asking for an extra appetizer or anything out of order (e.g. asking for lightbites before the main course etc). I was honestly a bit shocked that Emirates staff seemed hesitant or pushbacked to fulfill my request for an out-of-order snack or extra desert with a drink. They kept saying "well, we can do it but typiically we give lunch in an hour, and then light snacks on landing, are you sure?". And then made a face like it would be a bother so I was like "okay fine, i'll just do things as planned, I didn't realize we couldn't dine on demand". My last few flights on Qatar had gotten my used to dine on demand, had forgotten other airlines don't do things that way.
Emirates menu did not have any vegetarian lunch main course dining option by default (only beef/chicken/fish options), so you better preselect vegetarian. Qatar menu had veggie options by default. Again, I was a bit shocked by this given that 90% of the passengers on Emirates Seattle-Dubai route seemed like indian descent who are typically vegetarian.
I found Emirates 777-300 on Seattle route to be basically lie-flat, no issues there. Similar lie-flat to QSuites. No issues either way.
Emirates had a proper cocktail menu, which was better than Qatars.
Qatar's chai is better. Emirates coffee is better.
Emirate's ICE entertainment was way better.
Qatar wifi was slightly better (didn't seem to go off for two hours, while Emirates did go offline over the arctic). But maybe I didn't notice Qatar's going offline.
Qatar gives pajamas, which I wore on Emirates since they don't. Rest of basic amenity/dental etc kit is similar who cares
The QSuites are obviously guaranteed private, but in Emirates 2-3-2 I didn't have a neighbor so it was similarly private in window seat. No issues there as long as flight loads are low, very similar experience. It would definitely massively suck if you have a neighbor in the future higher Emirates flight loads. Total deal-breaker in that case if you're a single traveller.
Both airlines basically allow you to be mask-free when on the seat since no one is around to enforce it, so that was similar also.
Last edited by nomiiiii; Apr 12, 2021 at 4:30 pm
#26
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: EK Gold, A3 *G, AB Gold, Jetblue Mosaic
Posts: 1,386
Two weeks ago I flew Seattle - Doha on qsuites, and just today I flew back Dubai - Seattle on Emirates 777-300 business class so I was able to make a fresh comparison.
Qatar business lounge seems way more luxurious and elevated than the long Emirates lounge. The offerings are mostly similar in both lounges (showers etc), except Qatar lounge has many lounge/daybed style options, their shower room is bigger, and their dining area feels like a proper restaurant. Much "nicer" experience.
Qatar offers dine-on-demand which is so so so much better. Like, noticeably infinitely better. On Emirates it was like pulling teeth asking for an extra appetizer or anything out of order (e.g. asking for lightbites before the main course etc). I was honestly a bit shocked that Emirates staff seemed hesitant or pushbacked to fulfill my request for an out-of-order snack or extra desert with a drink. They kept saying "well, we can do it but typiically we give lunch in an hour, and then light snacks on landing, are you sure?". And then made a face like it would be a bother so I was like "okay fine, i'll just do things as planned, I didn't realize we couldn't dine on demand". My last few flights on Qatar had gotten my used to dine on demand, had forgotten other airlines don't do things that way.
Emirates menu did not have any vegetarian lunch main course dining option by default (only beef/chicken/fish options), so you better preselect vegetarian. Qatar menu had veggie options by default. Again, I was a bit shocked by this given that 90% of the passengers on Emirates Seattle-Dubai route seemed like indian descent who are typically vegetarian.
I found Emirates 777-300 on Seattle route to be basically lie-flat, no issues there. Similar lie-flat to QSuites. No issues either way.
Emirates had a proper cocktail menu, which was better than Qatars.
Qatar's chai is better. Emirates coffee is better.
Emirate's ICE entertainment was way better.
Qatar wifi was slightly better (didn't seem to go off for two hours, while Emirates did go offline over the arctic). But maybe I didn't notice Qatar's going offline.
Qatar gives pajamas, which I wore on Emirates since they don't. Rest of basic amenity/dental etc kit is similar who cares
The QSuites are obviously guaranteed private, but in Emirates 2-3-2 I didn't have a neighbor so it was similarly private in window seat. No issues there as long as flight loads are low, very similar experience. It would definitely massively suck if you have a neighbor in the future higher Emirates flight loads. Total deal-breaker in that case if you're a single traveller.
Both airlines basically allow you to be mask-free when on the seat since no one is around to enforce it, so that was similar also.
Qatar business lounge seems way more luxurious and elevated than the long Emirates lounge. The offerings are mostly similar in both lounges (showers etc), except Qatar lounge has many lounge/daybed style options, their shower room is bigger, and their dining area feels like a proper restaurant. Much "nicer" experience.
Qatar offers dine-on-demand which is so so so much better. Like, noticeably infinitely better. On Emirates it was like pulling teeth asking for an extra appetizer or anything out of order (e.g. asking for lightbites before the main course etc). I was honestly a bit shocked that Emirates staff seemed hesitant or pushbacked to fulfill my request for an out-of-order snack or extra desert with a drink. They kept saying "well, we can do it but typiically we give lunch in an hour, and then light snacks on landing, are you sure?". And then made a face like it would be a bother so I was like "okay fine, i'll just do things as planned, I didn't realize we couldn't dine on demand". My last few flights on Qatar had gotten my used to dine on demand, had forgotten other airlines don't do things that way.
Emirates menu did not have any vegetarian lunch main course dining option by default (only beef/chicken/fish options), so you better preselect vegetarian. Qatar menu had veggie options by default. Again, I was a bit shocked by this given that 90% of the passengers on Emirates Seattle-Dubai route seemed like indian descent who are typically vegetarian.
I found Emirates 777-300 on Seattle route to be basically lie-flat, no issues there. Similar lie-flat to QSuites. No issues either way.
Emirates had a proper cocktail menu, which was better than Qatars.
Qatar's chai is better. Emirates coffee is better.
Emirate's ICE entertainment was way better.
Qatar wifi was slightly better (didn't seem to go off for two hours, while Emirates did go offline over the arctic). But maybe I didn't notice Qatar's going offline.
Qatar gives pajamas, which I wore on Emirates since they don't. Rest of basic amenity/dental etc kit is similar who cares
The QSuites are obviously guaranteed private, but in Emirates 2-3-2 I didn't have a neighbor so it was similarly private in window seat. No issues there as long as flight loads are low, very similar experience. It would definitely massively suck if you have a neighbor in the future higher Emirates flight loads. Total deal-breaker in that case if you're a single traveller.
Both airlines basically allow you to be mask-free when on the seat since no one is around to enforce it, so that was similar also.
#27
Ambassador, Emirates
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: LGW / AMS / CPT
Programs: SA KL BA EK
Posts: 4,266
thanks for a fair comparison. This site is so full of superlative hate/praise for EK and QR depending on which side people fall on. Very surprised there was no vegetarian option on EK as every flight I’ve been on between the US and DXB for years and to various destinations, has an Indian vegetarian option as a standard menu item in every class
#28
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: UK
Programs: Etihad Gold, Qatar Gold, flying Blue, Falcon, Lufthansa, Eva
Posts: 1,428
I am very much a fan of dine when you want. I must say that with Emirates I find the food at their lounges (Manchester/Dubai) and some of the other to be of a such a standard that I will eat there and just snack on the plane from the meal service)
#29
Ambassador, Emirates
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: LGW / AMS / CPT
Programs: SA KL BA EK
Posts: 4,266
I agree! I will love eating in the lounge when LGW opens up again (if / when).... Very good food there!
#30
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 18,595