Fifth Freedom Routes Left
#1
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Fifth Freedom Routes Left
Now that EK axed its AKL-Australia routes, Im just left wondering what fifth freedom routes do they have left in that area of the world?
There is still BNE/MEL-SIN (never understood why no SYD), SYD-BKK, SIN-CMB, HKG-BKK, CMB-MLE.
Am I missing any?
There is still BNE/MEL-SIN (never understood why no SYD), SYD-BKK, SIN-CMB, HKG-BKK, CMB-MLE.
Am I missing any?
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Join Date: Aug 2017
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[QUOTE=NWplatinum;29589516]Now that EK axed its AKL-Australia routes, Im just left wondering what fifth freedom routes do they have left in that area of the world?
There is still BNE/MEL-SIN (never understood why no SYD), SYD-BKK, SIN-CMB, HKG-BKK, CMB-MLE.
Am I missing any?
LCA/MLA, GIG/EZE , HRE/LUN and I think there's 5th freedom route in W Afr but I can't remember it.
I wouldn't be surprised if EK will,announce more in near future.
There is still BNE/MEL-SIN (never understood why no SYD), SYD-BKK, SIN-CMB, HKG-BKK, CMB-MLE.
Am I missing any?
LCA/MLA, GIG/EZE , HRE/LUN and I think there's 5th freedom route in W Afr but I can't remember it.
I wouldn't be surprised if EK will,announce more in near future.
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Supposedly.
I notice that on EK res page that Mexican,Central Am and other new lat am dests have been recently loaded in menu...however not able to reserve, so maybe some kind of code share agreement or similar coming.Point to point BCN/MEX pax traffic is next to negligible, so feeder needs to be at both ends.It will be interesting to see which carrier will feed from European dests into BCN .Any ideas ?
I notice that on EK res page that Mexican,Central Am and other new lat am dests have been recently loaded in menu...however not able to reserve, so maybe some kind of code share agreement or similar coming.Point to point BCN/MEX pax traffic is next to negligible, so feeder needs to be at both ends.It will be interesting to see which carrier will feed from European dests into BCN .Any ideas ?
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Supposedly.
I notice that on EK res page that Mexican,Central Am and other new lat am dests have been recently loaded in menu...however not able to reserve, so maybe some kind of code share agreement or similar coming.Point to point BCN/MEX pax traffic is next to negligible, so feeder needs to be at both ends.It will be interesting to see which carrier will feed from European dests into BCN .Any ideas ?
I notice that on EK res page that Mexican,Central Am and other new lat am dests have been recently loaded in menu...however not able to reserve, so maybe some kind of code share agreement or similar coming.Point to point BCN/MEX pax traffic is next to negligible, so feeder needs to be at both ends.It will be interesting to see which carrier will feed from European dests into BCN .Any ideas ?
#14
Join Date: Aug 2017
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Yes they could all contribute.so if BCN route does open up,it will be interesting situation. Vueling unlikely as same group as BA/IB. Air Europa has its own lat am network.
Ryanair will be a considerable (involuntary)feeder for the STN EK service when that starts. It won't escape the attention of many people from EEurope/Scandinavia that they can combine a cheap flight to STN on FR and then fly EK to OZ/NZ at cheap ex UK fares this saving a decent amount even if they're limited to a few kgs on FR.
Ryanair will be a considerable (involuntary)feeder for the STN EK service when that starts. It won't escape the attention of many people from EEurope/Scandinavia that they can combine a cheap flight to STN on FR and then fly EK to OZ/NZ at cheap ex UK fares this saving a decent amount even if they're limited to a few kgs on FR.
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.......................... It won't escape the attention of many people from EEurope/Scandinavia that they can combine a cheap flight to STN on FR and then fly EK to OZ/NZ at cheap ex UK fares this saving a decent amount even if they're limited to a few kgs on FR.
I’m really not sure I share your views here.
The UK is certainly a very high demand air travel market ; and hugely ‘competitive’ in terms of choice of carriers & frequencies.
That does not, however, necessarily translate into low fares when comparing ex-UK departures versus ex-mainland Europe (and also Republic of Ireland) where almost all airports have fewer frequencies overall than London but where the lower level of demand can lead to significant fare savings - depending, in part, on exchange rates at any given time of course.
I once saved around 1500 GBP on an EK routing in J to Australia, simply by departing from Dublin rather than from London (whether LGW or LHR). Savings can also be had (admittedly, not always) from some Scandinavian countries versus UK.
It remains to be seen whether the STN tariffs really would encourage sizeable numbers of folk based in Europe to come over to the UK if they already have convenient, direct, EK options closer to their home. I have my doubts.