Why no seat 1K?
#1
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Why no seat 1K?
I'm booked to fly in F on EK319 NRT-DXB this Saturday. The aircraft is an A380 and I've chosen seat 2K after following the recommendations on here.
I was curious to see that there is no seat 1K on this aircraft, both on the Emirates website and EF. Does anyone know why this is?
I was curious to see that there is no seat 1K on this aircraft, both on the Emirates website and EF. Does anyone know why this is?
#2
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I'm booked to fly in F on EK319 NRT-DXB this Saturday. The aircraft is an A380 and I've chosen seat 2K after following the recommendations on here.
I was curious to see that there is no seat 1K on this aircraft, both on the Emirates website and EF. Does anyone know why this is?
I was curious to see that there is no seat 1K on this aircraft, both on the Emirates website and EF. Does anyone know why this is?
#3
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Becoming more and more common in my experience, why can’t they use the crew rest area ? Strange as Ek773/771 doesn’t have any blocked seating for crew, but Ek779 always does out of CPT. I also do also notice the crew rest area in economy thou at the rear of the plane cordoned off for cabin crew.
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Becoming more and more common in my experience, why can’t they use the crew rest area ? Strange as Ek773/771 doesn’t have any blocked seating for crew, but Ek779 always does out of CPT. I also do also notice the crew rest area in economy thou at the rear of the plane cordoned off for cabin crew.
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Becoming more and more common in my experience, why can’t they use the crew rest area ? Strange as Ek773/771 doesn’t have any blocked seating for crew, but Ek779 always does out of CPT. I also do also notice the crew rest area in economy thou at the rear of the plane cordoned off for cabin crew.
#6
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Okay then for argument sake what would EK do when they have a full F cabin? Just withhold one F seat from sale so it could be used for crew rest when the pilots have a crew bunk already ? I am all for well rested Pilots , but find it odd that out of 3 daily flights that only one has a blocked F seat for flight deck crew. Cabin crew as well, 8am takeoff in Dubai and arrival in Cape Town at 4pm for example, surely doesn’t need 4 rows of economy curtained off, can’t all be that tired that the crew rest area is over run?
If there is an empty seat in F on the day then sure or even in J then by all means, however crew rest area should be utilized first ( if available) or EK shouldn’t be sending aircraft without that facility on such long haul flights.
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Okay then for argument sake what would EK do when they have a full F cabin? Just withhold one F seat from sale so it could be used for crew rest when the pilots have a crew bunk already ? I am all for well rested Pilots , but find it odd that out of 3 daily flights that only one has a blocked F seat for flight deck crew. Cabin crew as well, 8am takeoff in Dubai and arrival in Cape Town at 4pm for example, surely doesn’t need 4 rows of economy curtained off, can’t all be that tired that the crew rest area is over run?
If there is an empty seat in F on the day then sure or even in J then by all means, however crew rest area should be utilized first ( if available) or EK shouldn’t be sending aircraft without that facility on such long haul flights.
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Becoming more and more common in my experience, why can’t they use the crew rest area ? Strange as Ek773/771 doesn’t have any blocked seating for crew, but Ek779 always does out of CPT. I also do also notice the crew rest area in economy thou at the rear of the plane cordoned off for cabin crew.
#10
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I do not really care how EK utilise their fleet and no as i usually book F way out in advanced like most F pax's , however it may dent my chances in J-F upgrade space thou. I am just pointing out how i find it odd that EK779 has a F seat blocked for flight deck crew compared to EK771 that doesn't, with about an hours flight departure difference when comparing the two. I am merely interested in how and why Emirates would do that and block a F seat limiting the purchasing of only 7 seats instead of 8 so far in advanced, from a logistical and efficiency point of view it would be surely easier for EK to roster configs with a crew rest bunk on long haul sectors ensuring that flight deck crew meet the criteria for undisturbed horizontal sleeping position as set out by the respective aviation authority, then if F/J cabin does not go out full then to allow flight deck crew to make use of F/J instead of losing revenue in the first place. To recap i have no problem with crew using F/J for rest periods as long as it does not directly disturb me - same goes for passengers as well , but if crew rest area is available then why use a configuration on long haul sectors with aircraft without that configuration or even buy aircraft with that installed - especially when cabin crew usually have that curtained off crew rest section in the last few rows of economy.
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I do not really care how EK utilise their fleet and no as i usually book F way out in advanced like most F pax's , however it may dent my chances in J-F upgrade space thou. I am just pointing out how i find it odd that EK779 has a F seat blocked for flight deck crew compared to EK771 that doesn't, with about an hours flight departure difference when comparing the two. I am merely interested in how and why Emirates would do that and block a F seat limiting the purchasing of only 7 seats instead of 8 so far in advanced, from a logistical and efficiency point of view it would be surely easier for EK to roster configs with a crew rest bunk on long haul sectors ensuring that flight deck crew meet the criteria for undisturbed horizontal sleeping position as set out by the respective aviation authority, then if F/J cabin does not go out full then to allow flight deck crew to make use of F/J instead of losing revenue in the first place. To recap i have no problem with crew using F/J for rest periods as long as it does not directly disturb me - same goes for passengers as well , but if crew rest area is available then why use a configuration on long haul sectors with aircraft without that configuration or even buy aircraft with that installed - especially when cabin crew usually have that curtained off crew rest section in the last few rows of economy.
As for why 779 and not others it may be because other have CRC, or the time of day
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In the spirit of discussion, to a perfectly reasonable question, is there any point answering a question with a question? If that is the case every time somebody asks something the reply may well as be "why not" or another classic "it is what it is". Adds no value at all.
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In the spirit of discussion, to a perfectly reasonable question, is there any point answering a question with a question? If that is the case every time somebody asks something the reply may well as be "why not" or another classic "it is what it is". Adds no value at all.
ironic, this post adds no value
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This answer could be used for absolutely anything!
And yes I know.. Ironically this is an extension of a post adding no value.
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In the spirit of discussion, to a perfectly reasonable question, is there any point answering a question with a question? If that is the case every time somebody asks something the reply may well as be "why not" or another classic "it is what it is". Adds no value at all.