EK using long haul A380 airframes on Ultra Long Haul routes
Nov 29, 2017, 2:04 am
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EK using long haul A380 airframes on Ultra Long Haul routes
So on my last 2 trips, I noticed that EK has started using long haul air frames, the ones with 427 seats in Y, on my preferred flight to JFK, EK203/4. Flights to JFK always used the ULH airframes (399Y/401Y) in the past. With fewer lavs in the first cabin (where I usually sit), had to suffer a longer wait to find an opportune moment to get up and use the Lavs. Wonder if this is here to stay and if so, definitely a letdown in what typically has been a nice flight.
EK201/2 continues to operate with the ULH air frames, though though I did see a few days this month on which a long haul a/c was used.
EK201/2 continues to operate with the ULH air frames, though though I did see a few days this month on which a long haul a/c was used.
Nov 29, 2017, 3:34 am
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So on my last 2 trips, I noticed that EK has started using long haul air frames, the ones with 427 seats in Y, on my preferred flight to JFK, EK203/4. Flights to JFK always used the ULH airframes (399Y/401Y) in the past. With fewer lavs in the first cabin (where I usually sit), had to suffer a longer wait to find an opportune moment to get up and use the Lavs. Wonder if this is here to stay and if so, definitely a letdown in what typically has been a nice flight.
EK201/2 continues to operate with the ULH air frames, though though I did see a few days this month on which a long haul a/c was used.
EK201/2 continues to operate with the ULH air frames, though though I did see a few days this month on which a long haul a/c was used.
Nov 29, 2017, 4:15 am
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Nov 29, 2017, 5:29 am
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So on my last 2 trips, I noticed that EK has started using long haul air frames, the ones with 427 seats in Y, on my preferred flight to JFK, EK203/4. Flights to JFK always used the ULH airframes (399Y/401Y) in the past. With fewer lavs in the first cabin (where I usually sit), had to suffer a longer wait to find an opportune moment to get up and use the Lavs. Wonder if this is here to stay and if so, definitely a letdown in what typically has been a nice flight.
EK201/2 continues to operate with the ULH air frames, though though I did see a few days this month on which a long haul a/c was used.
EK201/2 continues to operate with the ULH air frames, though though I did see a few days this month on which a long haul a/c was used.
Last edited by Bravo2K; Nov 29, 2017 at 5:34 am Reason: Missed rego’s
Nov 29, 2017, 5:35 am
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The very new ULH frames have Y426, the crew rest area is located in the cargo hold.
Perhaps you have flown with one of these frames? Like A6-EUF til A6-EUL??
The very new ULH frames have Y426, the crew rest area is located in the cargo hold.
Perhaps you have flown with one of these frames? Like A6-EUF til A6-EUL??
Nov 29, 2017, 6:27 am
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@jackiedada
The very new ULH frames have Y426, the crew rest area is located in the cargo hold.
Perhaps you have flown with one of these frames? Like A6-EUF til A6-EUL??
The very new ULH frames have Y426, the crew rest area is located in the cargo hold.
Perhaps you have flown with one of these frames? Like A6-EUF til A6-EUL??
Nov 29, 2017, 8:30 am
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Just to clarify, here is a configuration list of all EK A380
A380 2-CLASS C58 Y557
EOP, EOQ, EOR, EOS, EOX, EOY, EUN, EUO, EUP, EUQ, EUX, EUY, EUZ
A380 3-CLASS F14 C76 Y427 (LR)
EDF, EDG, EDH, EDI, EDJ, EDK, EDL, EDQ, EDR, EDS, EDT, EDU, EDV, EDW, EDX
EEA, EEB, EEC, EED, EEE, EEI, EEJ, EEN, EER, EES
A380 3-CLASS F14 C76 Y429 (LR)
EEW, EEX, EEY, EEZ, EOA, EOB, EOI, EOJ, EOK, EOO, EOT, EOU, EOV, EOW, EOZ
EUA, EUB, EUC, EUD, EUM
A380 3-CLASS F14 C76 Y399 (ULR)
EDA, EDB, EDC, EDD, EDE, EDM, EDN, EDO, EDP, EDY, EDZ
EEF, EEG, EEH, EEK, EEL, EEM, EEO, EEP, EEQ, EET
A380 3-CLASS F14 C76 Y401 (ULR)
EEU, EEV
EOC, EOD, EOE, EOF, EOG, EOH, EOL, EOM, EON
A380 3-CLASS F14 C76 Y426 (ULR)
EUE, EUF, EUG, EUH, EUI, EUJ, EUK, EUL, EUT, EUV
A380 2-CLASS C58 Y557
EOP, EOQ, EOR, EOS, EOX, EOY, EUN, EUO, EUP, EUQ, EUX, EUY, EUZ
A380 3-CLASS F14 C76 Y427 (LR)
EDF, EDG, EDH, EDI, EDJ, EDK, EDL, EDQ, EDR, EDS, EDT, EDU, EDV, EDW, EDX
EEA, EEB, EEC, EED, EEE, EEI, EEJ, EEN, EER, EES
A380 3-CLASS F14 C76 Y429 (LR)
EEW, EEX, EEY, EEZ, EOA, EOB, EOI, EOJ, EOK, EOO, EOT, EOU, EOV, EOW, EOZ
EUA, EUB, EUC, EUD, EUM
A380 3-CLASS F14 C76 Y399 (ULR)
EDA, EDB, EDC, EDD, EDE, EDM, EDN, EDO, EDP, EDY, EDZ
EEF, EEG, EEH, EEK, EEL, EEM, EEO, EEP, EEQ, EET
A380 3-CLASS F14 C76 Y401 (ULR)
EEU, EEV
EOC, EOD, EOE, EOF, EOG, EOH, EOL, EOM, EON
A380 3-CLASS F14 C76 Y426 (ULR)
EUE, EUF, EUG, EUH, EUI, EUJ, EUK, EUL, EUT, EUV
Last edited by ZRHMD11; Nov 29, 2017 at 11:33 am
Nov 29, 2017, 11:21 am
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Nov 29, 2017, 11:27 am
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On the 77W at least there are some changes in location of rescue equipment that I am aware of, I would expect there to be an altered MTOW (minimally) due to the different empty weight (zero fuel weight ZFW) of the aircraft, possible (but doubt it) structural considerations requiring reinforcement (3-class A380s for instance have reinforcement to support the F suites). Depending on how the max number of seats in the aircraft is affects it could conceivably have operational impact, potentially requiring one fewer crew if it were to drop the seats below the threshold of pax:crew ratio, but again I doubt it, the change in seat numbers is not that significant.
Nov 29, 2017, 11:33 am
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On the 77W at least there are some changes in location of rescue equipment that I am aware of, I would expect there to be an altered MTOW (minimally) due to the different empty weight (zero fuel weight ZFW) of the aircraft, possible (but doubt it) structural considerations requiring reinforcement (3-class A380s for instance have reinforcement to support the F suites). Depending on how the max number of seats in the aircraft is affects it could conceivably have operational impact, potentially requiring one fewer crew if it were to drop the seats below the threshold of pax:crew ratio, but again I doubt it, the change in seat numbers is not that significant.
Nov 29, 2017, 11:37 am
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Nov 29, 2017, 11:59 am
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Older ones of both types have a higher MTOW of around 7 tonnes (A6-EEK and before).
Nov 30, 2017, 12:49 am
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Last edited by ashivraj; Nov 30, 2017 at 12:54 am
Nov 30, 2017, 3:00 am
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Dec 2, 2017, 4:45 am
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On that note, does anyone know which frames have the large IFE's and aluminium bezels? I will be flying from MEL to DXB soon via DXB and would love to know if I'd be getting these.