Nov 12, 2017, 2:06 am
Last edit by: ft101
Emirates has unveiled the new first class cabin for their 777s at the Dubai Air Show on November 12th, 2017.
Notably, the new F cabin is fully enclosed from floor to ceiling, has a reduction from 8 seats to 6 total, had virtual windows for the center cabins and features video-based room service ordering.
Business and Economy cabins have also been refreshed, but not completely overhauled.
Dedicated 777 refresh page DEAD LINK
Emirates Press Release (includes PDF downloads of fact sheet with more details) DEAD LINK
Youtube Promo video of new 777F
Here's the replacement for the dead links:
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-unveils-brand-new-cabins-for-its-boeing-777-fleet/
Aircraft with new F (only 77W):
A6-EQH - EQP
Total: 9 aircraft
Current known routes flown with new F:
GVA - EK83 / EK84
BRU - EK181 / EK182
FRA - EK43 / EK44
HND - EK312 / EK313
JFK - EK201 / EK202
STN - EK33 / EK34 EK65 / EK66 (suspended)
VIE - EK125 / EK126
SIN - EK352/353 (unscheduled)
MUC - EK53/54
Update 13th June 2022 from post #1016
Routes operating with the new F as of Aug 1, 2022 include:
EK045 FRA*
EK065 STN
EK077 NCE
EK083 GVA
EK085 ZRH
EK089 GVA
EK181 BRU
EK183 BRU
EK819 RUH
EK318 NRT
*EK45 is also frequently operated by a 2-class 77W, but when flown as a 3-class, it is the new F configuration.
Notably, the new F cabin is fully enclosed from floor to ceiling, has a reduction from 8 seats to 6 total, had virtual windows for the center cabins and features video-based room service ordering.
Business and Economy cabins have also been refreshed, but not completely overhauled.
Dedicated 777 refresh page DEAD LINK
Emirates Press Release (includes PDF downloads of fact sheet with more details) DEAD LINK
Youtube Promo video of new 777F
Here's the replacement for the dead links:
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-unveils-brand-new-cabins-for-its-boeing-777-fleet/
Aircraft with new F (only 77W):
A6-EQH - EQP
Total: 9 aircraft
Current known routes flown with new F:
BRU - EK181 / EK182
FRA - EK43 / EK44
HND - EK312 / EK313
JFK - EK201 / EK202
STN - EK33 / EK34 EK65 / EK66 (suspended)
VIE - EK125 / EK126
SIN - EK352/353 (unscheduled)
MUC - EK53/54
Update 13th June 2022 from post #1016
Routes operating with the new F as of Aug 1, 2022 include:
EK045 FRA*
EK065 STN
EK077 NCE
EK083 GVA
EK085 ZRH
EK089 GVA
EK181 BRU
EK183 BRU
EK819 RUH
EK318 NRT
*EK45 is also frequently operated by a 2-class 77W, but when flown as a 3-class, it is the new F configuration.
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Dec 16, 2018, 7:49 pm
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Dec 16, 2018, 10:17 pm
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Dec 21, 2018, 11:27 pm
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Flew the new F followed by the older F. Absolutely loved the it and would definitely go out of my way again to fly it over the older version. Felt the seat area was much more spacious and more private. Only thing I disliked was the temp control didn't have a number reading on there and it took ages to play around with to get to a nice 20c.
Jan 19, 2019, 9:23 pm
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99% will not be the new First. The new first has not operated any ULR route AFAIK unless you count HND. The new first is mostly dedicated to rotations that can be operated with single airframe. BOS does usually see the 777-300ER with the new J product though.
Jan 22, 2019, 12:04 am
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Jan 22, 2019, 2:00 am
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Jan 22, 2019, 2:27 am
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As mentioned in another thread, if you look at the seat map you can see, if F is 1-1-1 then it is new. However only a handful of aircraft have new F (fewer than 6 I think) and they only fly to Europe and Japan right now, so the default assumption should always be that you'll get old F
Jan 22, 2019, 3:33 am
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One thing I've never been able to figure out - does anyone know why the bed moves sideways towards the window/console at the very last stage of recline?
There's plenty of room between the seat and the doors even when it's a bed so I don't think that's the reason. It makes no sense to me as it just eats into the bed area for seemingly no reason.
There's plenty of room between the seat and the doors even when it's a bed so I don't think that's the reason. It makes no sense to me as it just eats into the bed area for seemingly no reason.
Jan 22, 2019, 6:26 am
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As mentioned in another thread, if you look at the seat map you can see, if F is 1-1-1 then it is new. However only a handful of aircraft have new F (fewer than 6 I think) and they only fly to Europe and Japan right now, so the default assumption should always be that you'll get old F
Of course this changes when the new generation 777's start being delivered but as far as I can remember that will only be in the second half of 2020. No idea how these will be configured.
Jan 22, 2019, 7:32 am
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As far as I am aware EK is not going to upgrade older 77W's to new F. And as there are no more 77W's to be delivered, there will most likely be no other routes to get new F (unless any of the current routes are relegated to old F).
Of course this changes when the new generation 777's start being delivered but as far as I can remember that will only be in the second half of 2020. No idea how these will be configured.
Of course this changes when the new generation 777's start being delivered but as far as I can remember that will only be in the second half of 2020. No idea how these will be configured.
Jan 22, 2019, 10:05 am
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So essentially they ran this whole big “game-changer” campaign on the basis of 6 aircraft, while more than 90% of the fleet don’t have the product and it’s unknown if they’ll ever refit other aircraft. Wow. Marketing taken to a new low...
Jan 22, 2019, 10:40 am
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I mean we've known this since they announced the product. I am a little forgiving because I think many if not most airlines advertise their best/flagship products alot even when it may exist on just a small subfleet.