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Originally Posted by tmac100
(Post 27960605)
Traffic is not an issue mid-day. I may either ask my Boss if I can leave early, or (more likely) drop my bags off before the meeting .....
No one is commenting on whether these schedule changes are common with EK. I have had 4 already since Dec 2016 and I don't fly EK that often (10 times since Sept 2016). I yesterday has a quick look at an upcoming trip on my 'phone app and it alerted me to a 35 (!) minute change (later, not earlier) on the DXB/CPT return in October (that's not cool, as the layover is now almost 4 hours and I don't particularly enjoy that much lounge time from midnight until 03:50) . It required me to acknowledge the change before allowing me to look at the itinerary. Also, before my acknowledgment it told me there was no seat reserved and afterwards my 7K was back. |
Well, from my perspective, a delay is better than an advanced departure time - unless a connection must be made...
That said, I have invoked my idea that I fly at my convenience (not at the convenience of any airline), and also invoked "the customer is always right" clause. Two basic customer rights everywhere... Airlines rely on paying customers rather than passengers relying on any particular airline - as seemed to be intimated in contribution #5. Instead of selecting my next flight with EK, I have paid for a QR flight. Cost a bit more than the EK flight (well about 5 Euros more), BUT I have lounge access with QR and free seat selection so for me it a better deal. Got great seats in row 14 on both flights. No row 13... wonder what that means ;) That said, originally, I switched to EK because QR costs were up to 100 Euros more than EK flights. Thus, earlier (ie Sept to Dec 2016) it was wise to save the impact on my wallet by switching to EK. This EK schedule advancement thing (this week) was the final straw. BUT is a significant price discrepancy starts up again, then I will reconsider again. Now to see if they (QR) leave earlier than currently scheduled, or (more likely with QR) a bit later than scheduled. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by tmac100
(Post 27964667)
Well, from my perspective, a delay is better than an advanced departure time - unless a connection must be made...
That said, I have invoked my idea that I fly at my convenience (not at the convenience of any airline), and also invoked "the customer is always right" clause. Two basic customer rights everywhere... Airlines rely on paying customers rather than passengers relying on any particular airline - as seemed to be intimated in contribution #5. Instead of selecting my next flight with EK, I have paid for a QR flight. Cost a bit more than the EK flight (well about 5 Euros more), BUT I have lounge access with QR and free seat selection so for me it a better deal. Got great seats in row 14 on both flights. No row 13... wonder what that means ;) That said, originally, I switched to EK because QR costs were up to 100 Euros more than EK flights. Thus, earlier (ie Sept to Dec 2016) it was wise to save the impact on my wallet by switching to EK. This EK schedule advancement thing (this week) was the final straw. BUT is a significant price discrepancy starts up again, then I will reconsider again. Now to see if they (QR) leave earlier than currently scheduled, or (more likely with QR) a bit later than scheduled. :rolleyes: I think there's another contributor on here who you may get along quite well with. I believe he's also currently favouring QR over EK |
just received an email today from Emirates, informing me my ek8 LHR-DXB flight in July will now arrive 5mins later! The cheek of them!! 😂
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Originally Posted by tmac100
(Post 27964667)
Well, from my perspective, a delay is better than an advanced departure time - unless a connection must be made...
That said, I have invoked my idea that I fly at my convenience (not at the convenience of any airline), and also invoked "the customer is always right" clause. Two basic customer rights everywhere... Airlines rely on paying customers rather than passengers relying on any particular airline - as seemed to be intimated in contribution #5. Instead of selecting my next flight with EK, I have paid for a QR flight. Cost a bit more than the EK flight (well about 5 Euros more), BUT I have lounge access with QR and free seat selection so for me it a better deal. Got great seats in row 14 on both flights. No row 13... wonder what that means ;) That said, originally, I switched to EK because QR costs were up to 100 Euros more than EK flights. Thus, earlier (ie Sept to Dec 2016) it was wise to save the impact on my wallet by switching to EK. This EK schedule advancement thing (this week) was the final straw. BUT is a significant price discrepancy starts up again, then I will reconsider again. Now to see if they (QR) leave earlier than currently scheduled, or (more likely with QR) a bit later than scheduled. :rolleyes: You said in post 3: My Boss gives diddly squat about what EK is doing with my travel plans. In their book, that is a voluntary no-show and the usual penalties apply, because 10 minutes is "reasonably" close to the schedule, which you have accepted as being approximate in buying the ticket. Whilst it's trivially true that airlines rely on customers for revenue, and people have changed carriers for less than refusing to waive a change fee, there are always streams of people switching the other way (e.g. from QR to EK because of fares, customer service, etc.) If you are looking for an airline that will guarantee you a schedule, you will not find one because all airlines have similar clauses in their contracts. For example, in QR's condition of carriage, Article 10: We undertake to use our best efforts to carry you and your Baggage with reasonable dispatch and to adhere to published schedules in effect on the date of travel, but no particular time is fixed for the commencement or completion of carriage, and times shown in timetables or elsewhere are approximate and not guaranteed, and do not form part of the Conditions of Contract. Schedules are subject to change without notice, and we assume no liability for making connections. Once again, in an identical fashion to EK, the test is "reasonableness". You are, of course, free to choose any carrier you wish for any reasons you wish - clearly you feel that any schedule change should entitle you to a free change in all circumstances and EK is not meeting your needs there. The customer may not always be right - but he is the customer. |
Schedule change policy
I have a ticket on Emirate in F (A booking class) that I purchased in January. The departure date is in a week. I had booked the flights that I believe were operated by the A380 between DXB and JNB. Since then, they have changed the schedule and my flights are on a 77W and offset to 40 minutes earlier out of DXB on the outbound.
I would like to get back on the A380 operated flight that now departs 6h later in both directions. The fare has increased significantly, so a normal change procedure before departure would require a large difference in fare that I do not want to pay. Changing the return would be inexpensive after departure and I don't have an issue with paying the change fee if it comes to that. How flexible is EK with changes when there's a 40 minute schedule change? Or how difficult is it to change once in DXB on the outbound, if availability is still there? Once in DXB, it is after departure from origin and I believe there would not be any re-faring involved. |
I don't think you'll have a lot of luck here. A 40-minute schedule change is not going to trigger them changing your flights. You could ask, but I would expect to be told 'no'. You are never guaranteed an aircraft type.
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How short has it made your layover? You've correctly picked up that as soon as the trip begins historic fares at the time of original ticketing are used. However this means if the later flight (which at the original ticketing time was scheduled on a 77W) was originally more expensive, it still will be if you want to change it after your first flight departs.
The fact you're in F may help. Initially I would definitely try calling and pleading, on the basis that: 1. You specifically wanted the A380 for the shower and bar which the 77W doesn't have 2. Your layover is now too short for you to enjoy the lounge and have a stress-free transit (don't know how short it is, of course this argument won't hold if you still have a 4h layover). Have you looked at the next day's flight and adding a 1-day stopover in DXB? Unlikely that fares would be significantly different but perhaps an option. I'd try calling at least twice, if the first agent at least hesitates before saying no, you might just get lucky. You can also ask them to consult a supervisor and make it clear you're very unhappy, no idea if it'll work. Please do report back, though. Lastly, you're in F. The difference isn't that significant in F. In J it's another story. You're missing out on the bar and the shower, however I'm guessing you're US based, judging by your FF memberships, and probably have an A380 to DXB for the first leg, so you are going to experience those perks. The suite itself is basically identical in a 77W as it is in the A380. |
skywardhunter, my first flight is from the Middle East, so no A380 there.
The new schedule has reduced the connection time from 4h to 3h20. Personally I like the quieter A380 to the 77W. The difference is very noticeable to me. Also having the possibility of taking a shower before landing is something I enjoy. I will call and see what they say. |
Originally Posted by DeltaFlyingProf
(Post 28602129)
skywardhunter, my first flight is from the Middle East, so no A380 there.
The new schedule has reduced the connection time from 4h to 3h20. Personally I like the quieter A380 to the 77W. The difference is very noticeable to me. Also having the possibility of taking a shower before landing is something I enjoy. I will call and see what they say. |
Originally Posted by LondonElite
(Post 28601390)
I don't think you'll have a lot of luck here. A 40-minute schedule change is not going to trigger them changing your flights. You could ask, but I would expect to be told 'no'. You are never guaranteed an aircraft type.
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Originally Posted by DeltaFlyingProf
(Post 28601350)
I have a ticket on Emirate in F (A booking class) that I purchased in January. The departure date is in a week. I had booked the flights that I believe were operated by the A380 between DXB and JNB. Since then, they have changed the schedule and my flights are on a 77W and offset to 40 minutes earlier out of DXB on the outbound.
I would like to get back on the A380 operated flight that now departs 6h later in both directions. The fare has increased significantly, so a normal change procedure before departure would require a large difference in fare that I do not want to pay. Changing the return would be inexpensive after departure and I don't have an issue with paying the change fee if it comes to that. How flexible is EK with changes when there's a 40 minute schedule change? Or how difficult is it to change once in DXB on the outbound, if availability is still there? Once in DXB, it is after departure from origin and I believe there would not be any re-faring involved. Hope it works out for you. Don't worry if it doesn't, F in the 77W is still marvellous. |
EK don't guarantee a particular plane so no chance they'll let you move it without paying the fare difference.
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Originally Posted by chelseastu
(Post 28602243)
Agreed, although when I make a booking it does on most sites list the type of aircraft for each leg and for me that is a defining reason why I book said ticket.
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Originally Posted by ft101
(Post 28603906)
You leave yourself open to a lot of disappointment, and not just on Emirates.
My point is, if the website is showing me what type of aircraft the ticket is based on, I would try my luck with Emirates - I appreciate that from the airlines POV T&C's would cover any aircraft changes but it would be worth a shot. |
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