Emirates A380 or Cathay A350

Old Apr 18, 17, 2:58 am
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Emirates A380 or Cathay A350

I have to make a choice within the next couple of weeks which to choose for an upcoming flight to Beijing departing from LGW

The options are Emirates to DXB and then on to Beijing. The first leg LHR to DXB is on an A380 and the onward flight on a 777 - flight cost 2290 in J

Option Two Cathay to Hong Kong on an A350 and then on to Beijing on a Cathay operated,A330. The flight cost is 800 more but this will be settled by the client so is not an issue

Flight times are similar

So given these two options which would you go for
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Old Apr 18, 17, 3:02 am
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My preference would be the CX option (as long as it is an evening departure). My reason is I would prefer the opportunity of a decent nights, uninterrupted sleep, which there is more chance on a 12 hour sector than a 7 hour sector with a transfer in the ME.
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Old Apr 18, 17, 3:07 am
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Depends on whether you'd like 2 medium-haul flights or 1 long-haul + short hop.
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Old Apr 18, 17, 3:14 am
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i am leaning towards Emirates for the following:-

1) The Emirates lounge at Gatwick is pretty good whereas there is no Cathay Lounge. I believe that I would have to use the No 1 Lounge which tends to be very crowded

2) I like the bar on the A380 - it helps pass the time

3) I like Dubai Airport and if i have to spend 4 hours in transit i think there is more at DXB than HIA

4) The IFE on Emirates is superb

I have just been told that I could also go direct with Air China on a 777 should i wish to do so
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Old Apr 18, 17, 3:27 am
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I was doing GLA-DXB-PEK regularly the past 2 years. The DXB-PEK leg is a fairly quick flight but always managed to get a few hours sleep ( this was on the A380 which arrives in PEK in the afternoon). The 77W flight arrives later in the evening and the added benefit compared with CX is that you will get CD transfer.

I have arrived on the later CX & KA flights from HKG and it is a particularly busy time at the airport especially if trying to get a taxi. The last time I didn't bother staying in the queue as it would have probably been as long to get a taxi as it would have getting the train/bus to my accommodation. With EK, the CD driver will be waiting for you and take you to your hotel/accommodation with minimal fuss especially at that time of night and you should be ready for a decent sleep. For this reason alone, I would choose EK.

Same with the return, you will get CD and helps with the language barrier and trying to get transport to the airport. Despite the number of taxis in Beijing, it can be quite difficult at times to get one. The flight back to DXB is usually longer and my last two flights were as long as the advertised flight time just about so schedule padding for taxi etc was eaten into by the actual flying time which did maximise sleep time.

Some other pointers. Make sure you have a VPN pre-installed on smartphones/laptops/tablets. There are many websites/apps blocked by the Great Firewall of China and sometimes can be frustrating if you want to access certain email domains and can be problematic if trying to get a VPN whilst in the country. If you are going to be going about by taxi when you are there, download an app called Beijing Taxi. It translates your destination and most taxi drivers will be able to get you there without any problems.

If I can help you with anything else PM me or post here.

Safe & Happy Travels

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Old Apr 18, 17, 4:11 am
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Originally Posted by Premier Owl View Post
My preference would be the CX option (as long as it is an evening departure). My reason is I would prefer the opportunity of a decent nights, uninterrupted sleep, which there is more chance on a 12 hour sector than a 7 hour sector with a transfer in the ME.
Assuming one can sleep on a plane. I can't sleep in J or F.
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Old Apr 18, 17, 5:33 am
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Originally Posted by steveben53 View Post
i am leaning towards Emirates for the following:-
You could go either way. Great Circle map says that LON-HKG-PEK is longer in distance than LHR-DXB-PEK. That said, you may get more zzzzzzs on a LON-HKG/PEK flight than on two shorter flights.

If the lounge in LON is your concern, why not fly out of Heathrow? Any particular reason for picking LGW ?

This is honestly entirely up to you. Both airlines are IMO good. It's only a matter of personal preference. Flying CA directly could save you quite a bit of distance, but - while not having tested their latest hard product on the 777W - probably won't be on the same level in terms of hard and soft product.
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Old Apr 18, 17, 5:58 am
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Originally Posted by WorldLux View Post
LON-HKG-PEK is longer in distance

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Flying CA directly could save you quite a bit of distance
???

EDIT: nvm... I thought that was a typo and you meant CX, not CA
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Old Apr 18, 17, 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by WorldLux View Post
while not having tested their latest hard product on the 777W - probably won't be on the same level in terms of hard and soft product.
Actually I would put CA 77W J hard-product with 2-2-2 flat-bed config quite a bit above EK 2-3-2 angled-bed at least for the DXB-PEK segment (which is actually the longer segment of the two). EK A380 hard-product and the EK service of course will be much better.

At least my preference would be the CA non-stop.
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Old Apr 18, 17, 7:01 pm
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Non-stop trumps any other option. I would only take EK if you can get the ticket upgraded to F. Book in J, save receipt/eticket for reimbursement, then upgrade to F at your expense. But then you may be able to do the same with CA and it would be non stop.
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Old Apr 19, 17, 12:37 am
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I am wary about the CA option simply because of the quality of the IFE and the on board dining.

Say what you like about EK, the IFE is superb, best in the skies. Also the chauffeur service mentioned by Saltire in an earlier posting had completely slipped my mind. Is CD available for J class passengers upon arrival in Beijing - for travellers to HKG is is only available to those lucky souls in F

The reason for travelling out of Gatwick, is that I far prefer the relative calm of the Gatwick North terminal, to the zoo that is Heathrow T3
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Old Apr 19, 17, 12:40 am
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Originally Posted by steveben53 View Post
I am wary about the CA option simply because of the quality of the IFE and the on board dining.

Say what you like about EK, the IFE is superb, best in the skies. Also the chauffeur service mentioned by Saltire in an earlier posting had completely slipped my mind. Is CD available for J class passengers upon arrival in Beijing - for travellers to HKG is is only available to those lucky souls in F

The reason for travelling out of Gatwick, is that I far prefer the relative calm of the Gatwick North terminal, to the zoo that is Heathrow T3
CD service is available in PEK for J pax. I used it every time and decent vehicles.

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Old Apr 19, 17, 1:11 am
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Sounds like you've got your heart set on EK. Enjoy the trip
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Old Apr 19, 17, 1:29 am
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The flight cost is 800 more but this will be settled by the client so is not an issue
Would the client be happy if they knew they had been stiffed for 800?
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Old Apr 19, 17, 4:21 am
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The 800 is the Cathay option so going EK saves them that money.

Also it was in the agreed budget for travel costs so in the grand scheme of things 800 is not a big deal. If it was my money I would do the whole thing over a series of Skype calls and keep the money, but its not down to me.

The reason for the posting was I was just wondering if anybody on here has experienced the CX option on the new A350
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