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Mar 12, 2017, 10:39 am
#2
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Mar 12, 2017, 11:19 am
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An Emirates Airbus A380-800, registration A6-EEB performing flight EK-18 from Manchester,EN (UK) to Dubai (United Arab Emirates), was climbing out of Manchester's runway 23R when the crew could not retract the landing gear, stopped the climb at FL090 and entered a hold before deciding to divert to London Heathrow,EN (UK), where the aircraft landed safely on runway 27L about 90 minutes after departure.
A6-EEB seen on departure from Manchester (Photo: Chris Ogilvieţ):
Source: avherald
Plane actually flow low 9,000 from Wakefield to London, would have been a great day to Sky Jump!
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...a6-eeb#cb719a6
Landing video can be seen at:
Actually a good landing
A6-EEB seen on departure from Manchester (Photo: Chris Ogilvieţ):
Source: avherald
Plane actually flow low 9,000 from Wakefield to London, would have been a great day to Sky Jump!
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...a6-eeb#cb719a6
Landing video can be seen at:
Last edited by suley; Mar 12, 2017 at 11:30 am
Mar 12, 2017, 2:32 pm
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Gear didn't retract was the cause of divert. It happens and with the fleet the size of EK it won't be an uncommon occurrence, but isn't really a concern no need to worry. Ek (and every other airline) will have planes that go tech everyday for one reason or another.
Mar 12, 2017, 4:11 pm
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Mar 13, 2017, 4:19 am
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Mar 13, 2017, 5:11 am
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Mar 13, 2017, 11:00 am
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That's what the big red "remove before flight" tags are for!
Mar 13, 2017, 3:48 pm
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Interesting to see that they diverted to one of the busiest airports in the world. This decision was probably made to reassign pax easily to other EK flights, but they had to be pretty certain that the front gear wouldn't fail ...
Mar 13, 2017, 4:28 pm
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Also an airport where they are pretty much guaranteed to get both A380 qualified engineers and parts without delay!
Mar 14, 2017, 2:05 am
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A short lesson in root cause determination:
Start asking 'why':
'Why would the wheels not retract ' is only the first question.
Once you get a reply (for instance 'the locking pin was not removed'), ask:
'Why was the locking pin not removed'
Once you get the answer to that, continue to ask 'why' (like a 2 year old) until there is no need to ask more questions and there is a clear path to prevent recurrence (or to reduce the chance of recurrence).
It is unlikely that you will need to ask 'why' more than 5 times, hence the name '5 whys' for this problem solving technique.
[/ lecturing mode off....]
Start asking 'why':
'Why would the wheels not retract ' is only the first question.
Once you get a reply (for instance 'the locking pin was not removed'), ask:
'Why was the locking pin not removed'
Once you get the answer to that, continue to ask 'why' (like a 2 year old) until there is no need to ask more questions and there is a clear path to prevent recurrence (or to reduce the chance of recurrence).
It is unlikely that you will need to ask 'why' more than 5 times, hence the name '5 whys' for this problem solving technique.
[/ lecturing mode off....]
Mar 14, 2017, 3:47 am
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Runway length would have been the deciding factor. They wanted to keep the pressure off the front wheels for as long as possible, so would need as longer runway as possible.
Mar 14, 2017, 5:31 am
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As its been stated the nose wheel steering bypass pin would have meant that the nose wheel steering would not have been available. The other pin is the down lock pin, which I doubt would have been inserted on a turn, unless its towed to a remote stand then back to the gate at MAN. There are so many systems which could have stopped it retracting, is it confirmed it was only the nose gear?