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Information on Load requests

The number of seats for sale for a flight are available via ExpertFlyer.com, a subscription-based service with a 5-day free trial. A subscription is $9.99/month and can be enabled and disabled any time. It is encouraged to subscribe rather than post repeatedly in this thread.

NB: Op-up changes or overselling of a flight cannot be determined with certainty from this information, only inferred to be more or less probable.

For a once-off load request please follow these guidelines:

Flight loads >7 days out are not very useful, as the airline could still sell many seats, unless availability of a specific fare bucket (e.g. Business Saver upgrade) is requested. If you wish to know the general flight load please don't post >7 days before departure.

When requesting a load please provide the following information:

- Date of flight (departure date)
- Flight Number
- Origin
- Destination

These four fields are mandatory in searching on ExpertFlyer (see screenshot below) and it isn't fair to except those who pay for their subscriptions to also have to go look up which cities a specific flight number is from and to (also some flight numbers are onward flights (5th freedom routes, e.g. CMB-MLE) and loads will differ significantly depending on which sector of the flight is checked.

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Old Dec 21, 2017, 8:42 am
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Denizz,

0BRU
12/22/17 2:35 PMDXB
12/23/17 12:15 AM77W
Daily
89% / 29mF2 A0 J2 C0 I0 O0 P0 Y0 E0 R0 W0 M0B0 U0 K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0

EK 3840DXB
12/23/17 3:05 AMBKK
12/23/17 12:05 PM388
Daily
NA / NAJ2 C0 I0 O0 P0 Y0 E0 R0 W0 M0 B0 U0K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0

From the seat map there are three seats in F, 1 in J and Y is full but as I have found recently this can change!

On your second flight there are 5 seats available in J, Y is full again subject to change..
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 9:45 am
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Thanks Will! Did not even notice this thread . Looks like there is no chance to get lucky from what I distill of this, better start preparing mentally for the horrors of a 10 row 777 in Y. So be it.
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by Denizz
Thanks Will! Did not even notice this thread . Looks like there is no chance to get lucky from what I distill of this, better start preparing mentally for the horrors of a 10 row 777 in Y. So be it.
It's actually about 32 rows or so, but all rows are 10-abreast.

I'm on a 77W right now and the good news is that the WiFi is solid
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 6:13 pm
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Originally Posted by skywardhunter
It's actually about 32 rows or so, but all rows are 10-abreast.

I'm on a 77W right now and the good news is that the WiFi is solid
It appears 77W is the way forward for solid WIFI..!
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 6:15 pm
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Can I please request a check for:

EK 435 BNE-DXB December 22 (tonight)
EK 624 DXB-LHE (December 23)

I have an economy flex ticket and am Skywards Gold. What would my chances be of getting an op-up especially on EK 435? I'm expecting EK 435 to be chockers with today being the last working day before the holidays.

Many thanks!
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 10:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Denizz
. . . . better start preparing mentally for the horrors of a 10 row 777 in Y.
You'll likely never even notice the difference as most of the space is taken from the aisles rather than the seats. It's just here on FT that it's become such a catastrophe.
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 10:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Denizz
Thanks Will! Did not even notice this thread . Looks like there is no chance to get lucky from what I distill of this, better start preparing mentally for the horrors of a 10 row 777 in Y. So be it.
EK 10 abreast Y seats are not that bad. I’m 6ft 3in, (and not skinny). The caveat with bulkhead and exit seats are usually that these seats are not as wide due to fixed armrests. I did not find any issue with a bulkhead seat that I sat in so would assume that a standard seat with moveable armrests are not going to be as tight. As ft101 says, the space to fit those 10 seats in comes mostly from aisle space. Don’t fret too much about it. Thousands upon thousands of travellers fly on EK 77Ws daily in Y and a lot of them return for another go. Our very own ​​​​​​​Skywardhunter flies EK mostly on 77Ws in Y and chooses to do so on a regular basis despite having many other choices.

You are are going to have excellent IFE to while away the hours and crews down the back are good at getting you refills of drinks to keep you hydrated. Don’t fret about it.

Safe & Happy Travels

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Old Dec 21, 2017, 10:48 pm
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Originally Posted by flyingdoc007
Can I please request a check for:

EK 435 BNE-DXB December 22 (tonight)
EK 624 DXB-LHE (December 23)

I have an economy flex ticket and am Skywards Gold. What would my chances be of getting an op-up especially on EK 435? I'm expecting EK 435 to be chockers with today being the last working day before the holidays.

Many thanks!
EK 4350BNE
12/22/17 8:45 PMDXB
12/23/17 5:20 AM388
Daily
90% / 21mF4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 P1 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U0 K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0


EK 6240DXB
12/23/17 6:55 AMLHE
12/23/17 10:45 AM77W
M,W,F,Sa
63% / 38mJ5 C0 I0 O0 P0 Y0 E0 R0 W0 M0 B0 U0K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0

EK435 doesn’t look as good as 624.


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Old Dec 21, 2017, 11:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Saltire74


EK 10 abreast Y seats are not that bad. I’m 6ft 3in, (and not skinny). The caveat with bulkhead and exit seats are usually that these seats are not as wide due to fixed armrests. I did not find any issue with a bulkhead seat that I sat in so would assume that a standard seat with moveable armrests are not going to be as tight. As ft101 says, the space to fit those 10 seats in comes mostly from aisle space. Don’t fret too much about it. Thousands upon thousands of travellers fly on EK 77Ws daily in Y and a lot of them return for another go. Our very own Skywardhunter flies EK mostly on 77Ws in Y and chooses to do so on a regular basis despite having many other choices.

You are are going to have excellent IFE to while away the hours and crews down the back are good at getting you refills of drinks to keep you hydrated. Don’t fret about it.

Safe & Happy Travels

​​​​​​​S
​​​​​​​In DXB between two 77W flights in Y right now actually. Width isn't the issue, I find legroom in regular seats is less than A380 but it's manageable. Just did 9hrs in 19K and got another 3hrs to go in 19C
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Old Dec 22, 2017, 2:44 am
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Originally Posted by skywardhunter
In DXB between two 77W flights in Y right now actually. Width isn't the issue, I find legroom in regular seats is less than A380 but it's manageable. Just did 9hrs in 19K and got another 3hrs to go in 19C
I predict you get an op up..... ^
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Old Dec 22, 2017, 4:19 am
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Originally Posted by Flaneurs


EK 4350BNE
12/22/17 8:45 PMDXB
12/23/17 5:20 AM388
Daily
90% / 21mF4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 P1 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U0 K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0


EK 6240DXB
12/23/17 6:55 AMLHE
12/23/17 10:45 AM77W
M,W,F,Sa
63% / 38mJ5 C0 I0 O0 P0 Y0 E0 R0 W0 M0 B0 U0K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0

EK435 doesn’t look as good as 624.



many thanks. You were right- no upgrade for EK 435. To my shock found out that they have scrapped the priority security departure cards for gold members- only for first/business pax from now on. Wonder what's next..
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Old Dec 22, 2017, 6:10 am
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Originally Posted by ft101
You'll likely never even notice the difference as most of the space is taken from the aisles rather than the seats. It's just here on FT that it's become such a catastrophe.
Last year I flew with KLM and it was terrible. They went 10 seats a row in a 777 and swore never again. The seats were too narrow for me, and I ain't no fatty. EK A380 is acceptable for me...

Didn't check the plane type while booking this EK flight. About to board, will see if the EK implementation is better than the KLM one, I am sitting in aisle though as I always prefer that.

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Old Dec 27, 2017, 12:00 pm
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Hi everyone.

I wonder of if someone could tell me what the flight EK406 is looking like on 29th Dec? Got an email for upgrade to business for £824... not sure whether to do it or not?
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Old Dec 27, 2017, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Rufin
Hi everyone.

I wonder of if someone could tell me what the flight EK406 is looking like on 29th Dec? Got an email for upgrade to business for £824... not sure whether to do it or not?
It would help enormously if you include the route and not just the flight number. EF asks for the route and will then give you the availability on all flights for that day. One can filter on airline for a route but not just for a flight number.

Anyway, I found the routing so here you go:

EK 4060DXB
29/12/17 10:05MEL
30/12/17 6:30388
Daily
66% / 21mF4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 P7 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L9 T9 V0 X0

Does not appear to be full / overbooked in Y (or any other cabin for that matter) at least at this stage.

Last edited by thijsseh; Dec 27, 2017 at 1:27 pm
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Old Dec 27, 2017, 2:55 pm
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Thanks so much Thijsseh, really appreciate it and my apologies for omitting the route.
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