Last edit by: ZRHMD11
01 January 2017
MAN (EK021/022) from daily B77W to daily A380
BHX (EK037/038) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
BHX (EK039/040) from daily 2-class A380 to daily 2-class B77W
DUB (EK163/164) from daily 3-class B77W to daily 2-class B77W
BCN (EK185/186) from daily A380 to daily B77W
BCN (EK187/188) from daily A380 to daily B77W (since 21DEC)
BKK (EK370/371) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
ALG (EK757/758) from 5 weekly to 6 weekly with B77W
BAH (EK837/838) from daily EQV to daily B77W
06 January 2017
CMB SIN (EK348/349) route restricted to DXB CMB (until 01APR)
CMB (EK654/655) flight suspended (until 01APR)
01 February 2017
BUD (EK111/112) from daily B773 to daily 2-class B77W
BCN (EK185/186) from daily B77W to daily A380
KUL (EK346/347) from daily A380 to daily 2-class A380
JNB (EK761/762) from daily B77W to daily A380
12 March 2017
ATH (EK105/106) terminator service suspended
ATH EWR (EK209/210) new daily with B77W
26 March 2017
FCO (EK095/096) from daily A380 to daily B77W
FCO (EK099/100) third daily service reinstated with B77W
LCA ATH (EK107/108) five weekly routing suspended
LCA MLA (EK109/110) reinstated daily routing with B77W
BCN (EK187/188) from daily B77W to daily A380
LAX (EK217/218) from daily A380 to daily B77L
GIG EZE (EK247/248) from daily B77L to daily B77W
GRU (EK261/262) from daily B77W to daily A380
NRT (EK318/319) from daily B77W to daily A380
PER (EK424/425) from daily A380 to daily B77W
SEZ (EK707/708) from daily B77L to daily B77W
TUN (EK747/748) reinstated five weekly service with B77W
MLA TUN (EK749) five weekly routing suspended
CMN (EK751/752) from daily B77W to daily A380
JNB (EK763/764) from daily B77W to daily A380
LAD (EK793/794) from daily B77W to daily B77L
03 April 2017
JNB (EK761/762) from daily A380 to B77W
01 May 2017
ATH (EK103/104) new second daily with B77W
LAX (EK217/218) flight suspended
01 June 2017
ZAG (EK129/130) new daily with B77W
FLL (EK213/214) from daily to 5 weekly B77L
MCO (EK219/220) from daily to 5 weekly B77W
SEA (EK227/228) flight suspended
BOS (EK239/240) flight suspended
INC CGO (EK326/327) from 4 weekly to 3 weekly B77L
NBO (EK717/718) new third daily with B77W
06 June 2017
DOH all flights suspended
01 July 2017
CDG (EK071/072) from 3-class A380 to 2-class A380
NCE (EK077/078) from daily B77W to daily A380
GVA (EK083/084) from daily B77W to daily B77L
PVG (EK304/305) from daily B77W to daily A380
PEK (EK308/309) from daily B77W to daily A380
DPS (EK360/361) new second daily with 2-class B77W
RGN PNH (EK388/389) new daily with 2-class B77W
HAN (EK394/395) new terminator with 2-class B77W
07 July 2017
ICN (EK328/329) new weekly with A380
10 July 2017
LAD (EK793/794) from 5 weekly to 3 weekly B77W (B77L from 27th July)
13 July 2017
SYD AKL (EK418/419) flight suspended
08 August 2017
KRT (EK733/734) from 5 weekly to daily B77W
01 September 2017
MUC (EK053/054) from daily A380 to daily B77W
MAD (EK143/144) from daily B77W to daily A380
MRU (EK703/704) from daily 3-class A380 to daily 2-class A380
BKK (EK370/371) from daily 2-class A380 to daily 2-class B77W
BHX (EK041/042) flight suspended
01 October 2017
TPE (EK366/367) from daily 2-class A380 to daily 3-class A380
BKK HKG (EK384/385) from daily 3-class A380 to daily 2-class A380
BKK (EK376/377) from daily 3-class A380 to daily 2-class A380
DME (EK133/134) from daily B77W to daily A380
29 October 2017
BHX (EK039/040) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
ATH (EK103/104) flight suspended
BRU (EK181/182) new second daily with B77W
CAI (EK925/926) from 3 weekly to daily B77W
ZAG (EK129/130) from daily to 5 weekly B77W
TUN (EK747/748) from 6 weekly to daily B77W
17 November 2017
MLE (EK660/661) new thrice weekly with B77W
01 December 2017
GVA (EK083/084) from daily B77L to daily B77W
BNE (EK430/431) new third daily with B77L
08 December 2017
ARN (EK155/156) new seasonal 3 weekly with B77W
13 December 2017
ALG (EK757/758) from 6 weekly to daily B77W
15 December 2017
LOS (EK781/782) flight resumption with daily B77W
ABV (EK785/786) flight resumption with four weekly B773
25 December 2017
MLE (EK660/661) from thrice weekly to daily B77W
01 January 2018
HND (EK312/313) from daily B77L to daily B77W
25 March 2018
HND (EK312/313) from daily B77W to 5 weekly B77W + 2 weekly B77L
MEL (EK408/409) from daily B77W to daily A380
ATH (EK103/104) flight resumption with daily B77W
SYD (EK416/417) new fourth daily with A380
08 June 2018
STN (EK33/34) new daily with B77W
MAN (EK021/022) from daily B77W to daily A380
BHX (EK037/038) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
BHX (EK039/040) from daily 2-class A380 to daily 2-class B77W
DUB (EK163/164) from daily 3-class B77W to daily 2-class B77W
BCN (EK185/186) from daily A380 to daily B77W
BCN (EK187/188) from daily A380 to daily B77W (since 21DEC)
BKK (EK370/371) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
ALG (EK757/758) from 5 weekly to 6 weekly with B77W
BAH (EK837/838) from daily EQV to daily B77W
06 January 2017
CMB SIN (EK348/349) route restricted to DXB CMB (until 01APR)
CMB (EK654/655) flight suspended (until 01APR)
01 February 2017
BUD (EK111/112) from daily B773 to daily 2-class B77W
BCN (EK185/186) from daily B77W to daily A380
KUL (EK346/347) from daily A380 to daily 2-class A380
JNB (EK761/762) from daily B77W to daily A380
12 March 2017
ATH (EK105/106) terminator service suspended
ATH EWR (EK209/210) new daily with B77W
26 March 2017
FCO (EK095/096) from daily A380 to daily B77W
FCO (EK099/100) third daily service reinstated with B77W
LCA ATH (EK107/108) five weekly routing suspended
LCA MLA (EK109/110) reinstated daily routing with B77W
BCN (EK187/188) from daily B77W to daily A380
LAX (EK217/218) from daily A380 to daily B77L
GIG EZE (EK247/248) from daily B77L to daily B77W
GRU (EK261/262) from daily B77W to daily A380
NRT (EK318/319) from daily B77W to daily A380
PER (EK424/425) from daily A380 to daily B77W
SEZ (EK707/708) from daily B77L to daily B77W
TUN (EK747/748) reinstated five weekly service with B77W
MLA TUN (EK749) five weekly routing suspended
CMN (EK751/752) from daily B77W to daily A380
JNB (EK763/764) from daily B77W to daily A380
LAD (EK793/794) from daily B77W to daily B77L
03 April 2017
JNB (EK761/762) from daily A380 to B77W
01 May 2017
ATH (EK103/104) new second daily with B77W
LAX (EK217/218) flight suspended
01 June 2017
ZAG (EK129/130) new daily with B77W
FLL (EK213/214) from daily to 5 weekly B77L
MCO (EK219/220) from daily to 5 weekly B77W
SEA (EK227/228) flight suspended
BOS (EK239/240) flight suspended
INC CGO (EK326/327) from 4 weekly to 3 weekly B77L
NBO (EK717/718) new third daily with B77W
06 June 2017
DOH all flights suspended
01 July 2017
CDG (EK071/072) from 3-class A380 to 2-class A380
NCE (EK077/078) from daily B77W to daily A380
GVA (EK083/084) from daily B77W to daily B77L
PVG (EK304/305) from daily B77W to daily A380
PEK (EK308/309) from daily B77W to daily A380
DPS (EK360/361) new second daily with 2-class B77W
RGN PNH (EK388/389) new daily with 2-class B77W
HAN (EK394/395) new terminator with 2-class B77W
07 July 2017
ICN (EK328/329) new weekly with A380
10 July 2017
LAD (EK793/794) from 5 weekly to 3 weekly B77W (B77L from 27th July)
13 July 2017
SYD AKL (EK418/419) flight suspended
08 August 2017
KRT (EK733/734) from 5 weekly to daily B77W
01 September 2017
MUC (EK053/054) from daily A380 to daily B77W
MAD (EK143/144) from daily B77W to daily A380
MRU (EK703/704) from daily 3-class A380 to daily 2-class A380
BKK (EK370/371) from daily 2-class A380 to daily 2-class B77W
BHX (EK041/042) flight suspended
01 October 2017
TPE (EK366/367) from daily 2-class A380 to daily 3-class A380
BKK HKG (EK384/385) from daily 3-class A380 to daily 2-class A380
BKK (EK376/377) from daily 3-class A380 to daily 2-class A380
DME (EK133/134) from daily B77W to daily A380
29 October 2017
BHX (EK039/040) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
ATH (EK103/104) flight suspended
BRU (EK181/182) new second daily with B77W
CAI (EK925/926) from 3 weekly to daily B77W
ZAG (EK129/130) from daily to 5 weekly B77W
TUN (EK747/748) from 6 weekly to daily B77W
17 November 2017
MLE (EK660/661) new thrice weekly with B77W
01 December 2017
GVA (EK083/084) from daily B77L to daily B77W
BNE (EK430/431) new third daily with B77L
08 December 2017
ARN (EK155/156) new seasonal 3 weekly with B77W
13 December 2017
ALG (EK757/758) from 6 weekly to daily B77W
15 December 2017
LOS (EK781/782) flight resumption with daily B77W
ABV (EK785/786) flight resumption with four weekly B773
25 December 2017
MLE (EK660/661) from thrice weekly to daily B77W
01 January 2018
HND (EK312/313) from daily B77L to daily B77W
25 March 2018
HND (EK312/313) from daily B77W to 5 weekly B77W + 2 weekly B77L
MEL (EK408/409) from daily B77W to daily A380
ATH (EK103/104) flight resumption with daily B77W
SYD (EK416/417) new fourth daily with A380
08 June 2018
STN (EK33/34) new daily with B77W
Emirates New Routes and Changes 2017
#196
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Maybe, but it would have to be a special high value cargo imho, since EK’s freight revenue is, iirc, something on the order of 1.1k USD/ton and you can fit 23ton in a 77W.
26k cargo revenue contrast with a 42/42 J cabin with each pax on an average revenue of 1.5k USD and I’d put more money on a demand spike or trialling new pax timing.
26k cargo revenue contrast with a 42/42 J cabin with each pax on an average revenue of 1.5k USD and I’d put more money on a demand spike or trialling new pax timing.
#197
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I would be really keen to know to know what the real reason/s are. I take on that it is the start of Xmas hols , however does the really justify additionally scheduling of a 5th 77W for two days only - as mentioned above by someone the demand is only really oneway from JNB to DXB. Maybe someone should check flight loads for all flights Ex-JNB for those two days ( i do not have a valid EF sub) to see if it is purely for additional revenue seat loads.
On a side note one would think this is bad timing to be sticking on a additional service , surely one would think that everyone would of booked their Xmas trips by now - flight wise. Also i haven't seen EK advertise it once ...
On a side note one would think this is bad timing to be sticking on a additional service , surely one would think that everyone would of booked their Xmas trips by now - flight wise. Also i haven't seen EK advertise it once ...
Last edited by Flame3601; Oct 23, 2017 at 5:31 am
#198
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Maybe, but it would have to be a special high value cargo imho, since EK’s freight revenue is, iirc, something on the order of 1.1k USD/ton and you can fit 23ton in a 77W.
26k cargo revenue contrast with a 42/42 J cabin with each pax on an average revenue of 1.5k USD and I’d put more money on a demand spike or trialling new pax timing.
26k cargo revenue contrast with a 42/42 J cabin with each pax on an average revenue of 1.5k USD and I’d put more money on a demand spike or trialling new pax timing.
#199
Join Date: Nov 2013
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Well a full cargo hold + incremental revenue from pax tix might make it viable, could also be something high value as you say, luxury cars, gold, etc. though for gold I'm sure the mines in SA use dedicated freight operators. Another option might be a sports charter which only fills up some cabins/seats and EK is cost-saving so now they sell extra seats on charters?
#200
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It could be really anything , maybe Gupta's/Zuma transferring "assets" to Dubai hehe ? I have sent off a FB PM to EK for some form of clarification if they can help us answering why ...
Will update once i get a reply.
Will update once i get a reply.
#201
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This is what EK provided me via FB PM , so the reason is pretty conclusive why we are seeing a 5th service for 2 days only :roll eyes:...
Will try push EK JNB office to get a true reason
Will try push EK JNB office to get a true reason
#203
Join Date: Aug 2017
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https://www.southafrica.to/transport...es-Durban.php5
extra flights were added ... although from DUR around the Christmas hols period ..... to ... quote the article
"Emirates are expecting an increase in passenger numbers over the holiday season as families living abroad come to South Africa’s sunny shores to visit friends and family"
so this year its from JNB . I would imagine that EK looking for ways with their excess metal to fill seats on other (connecting) routes to/from DXB which is apparent even in high season .
#204
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last year ...
https://www.southafrica.to/transport...es-Durban.php5
extra flights were added ... although from DUR around the Christmas hols period ..... to ... quote the article
"Emirates are expecting an increase in passenger numbers over the holiday season as families living abroad come to South Africa’s sunny shores to visit friends and family"
so this year its from JNB . I would imagine that EK looking for ways with their excess metal to fill seats on other (connecting) routes to/from DXB which is apparent even in high season .
https://www.southafrica.to/transport...es-Durban.php5
extra flights were added ... although from DUR around the Christmas hols period ..... to ... quote the article
"Emirates are expecting an increase in passenger numbers over the holiday season as families living abroad come to South Africa’s sunny shores to visit friends and family"
so this year its from JNB . I would imagine that EK looking for ways with their excess metal to fill seats on other (connecting) routes to/from DXB which is apparent even in high season .
#205
Join Date: Aug 2017
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I don't think either that they struggle with loads to/from SA....however other routes Europe and Asia I notice are suffering so extra feeder traffic is needed ...bums on seats
#206
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Interesting to spot this early morning that JNB is getting a 5th additional flight on the DXB-JNB-DXB segment only on the 8th and 9th of December , it seems it is only a two class 77W as EK.com or expert flyer won't give me any F availability or provide any seat maps.
Flight is operating as EK2675 on the inbound (DXB-JNB), departing DXB @9am and arriving in JNB @ 15:20. Then EK2676 on the outbound (JNB-DXB) leaving JNB @ 17:00 then arriving in DXB @ 3:00am. Pretty good timing on the inbound for folks based in DXB imo.
However pretty strange for EK to be doing this ? Excessive demand or trialling the option of how well a 5th flight work on the JNB sector.
Flight is operating as EK2675 on the inbound (DXB-JNB), departing DXB @9am and arriving in JNB @ 15:20. Then EK2676 on the outbound (JNB-DXB) leaving JNB @ 17:00 then arriving in DXB @ 3:00am. Pretty good timing on the inbound for folks based in DXB imo.
However pretty strange for EK to be doing this ? Excessive demand or trialling the option of how well a 5th flight work on the JNB sector.
15-17 Dec & 05-07 & 13 Jan:
DXB LHR 1510 1910 EK2641
LHR DXB 2110# 0800 EK2642
#207
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Wow , first time LHR would of got a EK 777 in a long time ! Maybe EK adding additional capacity on routes that have the demand bu using aircraft that most likely would be operating DOH sectors ?
#208
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Surprised that slots were available at LHR though!
#210
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Forgot to mention:
16 & 31 DEC
DXB LGW 1325 1705 EK2561
LGW DXB 1925# 0620 EK2562
07 JAN:
DXB LGW 0410 0805 EK2561
LGW DXB 1110 2200 EK2562