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magnus269 Dec 6, 2016 1:04 pm

Huge discrepancy between Emirates and Experflyer
 
Hi,

I'm looking at a certain flight on a specific day on the emirates website - it's telling me there's only 3 seats available left in J and 2 left in F and 0 left in Y.

Expertflyer, on the other hand, is telling me there is massive availability in Y - near enough to 100 seats, and 8 seats left in J.

I would have much preferred to go with Y on this flight but have been somewhat forced into purchasing a J ticket.

Is anyone able to explain the huge discrepancy between emirates and expertflyer with regards to seat availability? Would be much appreciated as I can't make heads or tails of it.

shuly Dec 6, 2016 1:11 pm

On Expertflyer, are you looking at availability of fare buckets or available (unassigned) seats?
How do you reckon there are 100 seats available in Y?

If it's allocated seats that you're looking at, it's meaningless. What counts is availability of fare buckets.

Shuly

skywardhunter Dec 6, 2016 4:37 pm

It's not possible to determine number of seats available beyond 9 on Expertflyer

m3red Dec 6, 2016 8:17 pm


Originally Posted by magnus269 (Post 27573741)
Hi,

I'm looking at a certain flight on a specific day on the emirates website - it's telling me there's only 3 seats available left in J and 2 left in F and 0 left in Y.

Expertflyer, on the other hand, is telling me there is massive availability in Y - near enough to 100 seats, and 8 seats left in J.

I would have much preferred to go with Y on this flight but have been somewhat forced into purchasing a J ticket.

Is anyone able to explain the huge discrepancy between emirates and expertflyer with regards to seat availability? Would be much appreciated as I can't make heads or tails of it.

As others have said the seatmaps are not indicative of seats sold anymore especially in economy where some tickets now make you pay if you don't have status.

The numbers on EF are also the number of seats EK is willing to sell and not necessarily reflective of what is actually available because EK oversell y and j (not F like BA) on certain routes.

When booking on the EK website you should also note that when you select a certain ticket type i.e. Saver it may say 2 left but then there will likely by j flex and j flex plus left...

Saltire74 Dec 6, 2016 8:35 pm

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This was the seatmap I put on another thread on 8th November 16 for a flight on 30th November 16. It only shows a small part of the entire Y cabin but this screenshot and the last cabin had a lot of empty seats and remained so until T-50hrs (2 hours before OLCI opened) when I last checked before OLCI opened.

Unfortunately, I don't have a screenshot, but when OLCI opened at T-48, all of a sudden, there were about 10 empty seats available to choose from in Y. Every seat in this cabin apart from exit/bulhead seats were taken and the same with the other Y cabins and practically all middle seats only left (except for exit/bulheads which are allocated at the airport).

Expertflyer showed the same as the EK App up until the same time. You can never go on what expertflyer seatmaps show.

Safe & Happy Travels

S

lowjhg Dec 6, 2016 11:57 pm


Originally Posted by Saltire74 (Post 27575665)
This was the seatmap I put on another thread on 8th November 16 for a flight on 30th November 16. It only shows a small part of the entire Y cabin but this screenshot and the last cabin had a lot of empty seats and remained so until T-50hrs (2 hours before OLCI opened) when I last checked before OLCI opened.

Unfortunately, I don't have a screenshot, but when OLCI opened at T-48, all of a sudden, there were about 10 empty seats available to choose from in Y. Every seat in this cabin apart from exit/bulhead seats were taken and the same with the other Y cabins and practically all middle seats only left (except for exit/bulheads which are allocated at the airport).

Expertflyer showed the same as the EK App up until the same time. You can never go on what expertflyer seatmaps show.

Safe & Happy Travels

S

Yeah seatmap will not show actual tickets for sale. The EF flight availability data is correct. If there are seats opened up at T-48, maybe it might be points upgrades or op ups being processed that causes the opening up of Y seats.

Kiwi Flyer Dec 7, 2016 1:27 am


Originally Posted by shuly (Post 27573782)
On Expertflyer, are you looking at availability of fare buckets or available (unassigned) seats?
How do you reckon there are 100 seats available in Y?

If it's allocated seats that you're looking at, it's meaningless. What counts is availability of fare buckets.

Shuly


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 27574828)
It's not possible to determine number of seats available beyond 9 on Expertflyer

To add to this, you can't add the availability in different fare classes within the same cabin to get a total. If the airline is willing to sell a seat in a cheap fare class then they are also willing to sell the same physical seat in all the more expensive fare classes.

eternaltransit Dec 7, 2016 1:29 am


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 27576445)
To add to this, you can't add the availability in different fare classes within the same cabin to get a total. If the airline is willing to sell a seat in a cheap fare class then they are also willing to sell the same physical seat in all the more expensive fare classes.

You say that, but EK's IT system is just bad, because I have had a situation where a flight was available on the App, but not on the website, then E class was not available, but R class was so the automatic change system couldn't work.

I had to go to an airpot office to get it ticketed manually!


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