A380 changes
 

Apologies if it is noted elsewhere, but BT have an article about the 85th A380 - and the changes to Y and J.

The biggest change to J seems to be that the overhead bins are gone for the aisle/window seats...which is even more of a reason to avoid the middle seats!

Article here - https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...nfigured-a380/

M

The press release was mentioned in the fleet guide thread a couple of days ago (post #157), but no discussion on it.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/emir...-guide-11.html

http://www.emirates.com/media-centre...-to-its-fleet#

Thanks for the links!

I'm surprised no photos the enlarged TV etc.

M

Looks to me like a positive spin on a weight reduction program and low MTOW deliveries without CRAs. Less than 8 hrs don't need horizontal rest and saves money.

It did not fly yet (check on Flightradar24.com the reg. A6-EUH).

It says in the article: "The next generation A380s are expected to serve more ultra-long haul routes."

I thought that A350 will (also) be the plane for such routes. Currently, the longest flight is done by an A380 (DXB-AKL) at a cost of 100 unbookable seats (otherwise it won't make the 14000km to AKL), but mostly it is a B777L without seating restrictions.

I think a twin engine is more efficient in liters fuel per passenger km than a quad engine.

But does the article mean the A380neo ? Or a new twin engine version of the A380 ?

Emirates cancelled all their A350 orders.

There are some subtle changes to F as well that most wouldn't notice that I mentioned a little a little while ago.

Shocking picture of the Business cabin. Looks like a huge cattle truck :eek:

It's pretty much what it is! It's why I prefer j on the 777

Does like a bit BAish (777dormitory wise). I like the rear cabin, seat 23 A/K in particular.

That picture is a intense. Not far off looking like a kaleidoscope.

Safe & Happy Travels

S

Exactly, rear BC cabin is where I ride as well.

23k mostly to be exact.

https://theluxurytravelexpert.files....1/pa230144.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...88a22a6365.jpg

The FT article mentioned in-seat minibars. Does that mean the onboard bar is going away? On my next EK flight, I was planning to fly in J to experience this on the 14+ hour TATL route.

The article is talking about the new J product on the 77W which will have a new refrigerated minibar. 77W J does not currently have any minbar. All A380's have an unrefrigerated minibar in J and a full bar/lounge in the back so you should not have a problem :)

Do you mind telling us how you would call the Y cabin ? :D:D

I would get banned from FT if I vocalised that opinion :eek: :D

p.s. in fairness I hear its one of the better Y cabins. I’ll never find out though!! Ha!

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You don't like overhead bins? The bins are now only over the middle seats, not the ones between the aisle and window. Or is that the passengers from the window seats will be using the bin over the middle seat?

To me, having a higher ceiling is a more attractive proposal than having people reaching above me to get their stuff...hence I'd avoid the middle seats.

M

I find that, generally you get a bin to yourself on the current setup and minimises the need for bins being opened and closed during the flight. With this new setup, bins will be getting opened more and possibly pax feeling more conscious about the safety of their belongings.

S

So, is this a good or a bad thing ?

As for me, it's a bad evolution.
Ceiling height is not a real issue, as pax are seated anyway.

In the current setting, you can get a whole bin for yourself. Therefore, if anybody touches it, you know there is a problem.

In future settings, you will have to share a bin. you don't want to get stressed each time somebody touches it, checking that everything is all right.

Moreover, people forget that the center bins are less accessible. Therefore, center pax will really be annoyed by window pax opening the bins.

You really notice the difference not having bins if you are regularly in F - it strangely does make the cabin feel more pleasant.

I suppose it's like the showers on board - sounds like a complete gimmick until you try it.

I don't really buy the whole sharing bins argument - if you are awake you can see what happens (and you have a side bin), if you are asleep you won't notice anyway.

Even in the current setup, I've shared J bins many times so not much difference on full flights imho.

I don't care about traveling F or J as I don't want to spend $7500 rt instead of $1240 rt for a ticket just for 2x24 hours spending in a first class restaurant with a flat bed.
Then I rather keep a lousy Y seat which is more cramped, but on EK 380 it is not that bad.

the fewer overhead bins would probably make the cabin feel much lighter, similar to the 2-class 777 J cabin.

As for the sharing bins argument, that's ridiculous. Try cattle class where there's 4-5 people to a bin. Unless you're flying to HKG in the back of Y chances are no ones touching your stuff.

My carry on (under standard industry) could never easily fit into the the bins they have eliminated so works fine for me. My (irrational?) anxiety will go up a notch to get my bags right acrosss the aisle from me (I'm usually in A or K).

Agree with previous posters. It will enhance the cabin feel for A and K. Wonder how the bigger middle bins will feel for those in the middle.

I don't carry much on board so not easy to judge, but I see bags the size of a small house going up there. Your industry standard (I didn't think there was such a thing) must be interesting.