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Old Mar 17, 2019, 11:33 pm
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Originally Posted by m3red


Thats still probably over in y
Sorry, don't get it?

Do you mean that its full in Y or oversold?
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Old Mar 18, 2019, 2:54 am
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A few observations...

1) Are you looking at each sector individually or both sectors as a trip? Emirates relies quite heavily on married segments so the availability can differ if searching segment by segment might show different availability.

2) I've noticed that Emirates will often still sell F seats even when J is overbooked to the point that the F cabin will already be full. They clearly take the view that the additional revenue from selling an F seat is greater than downgrading/offloadinga a J passenger. This is similar in J when Y is heavily overbooked

Sc0tty - if you share the exact date of your flights, I will see if I can get the exact load for you if it's T-48...
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Old Mar 18, 2019, 2:57 am
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Originally Posted by Lkaroo
A few observations...

1) Are you looking at each sector individually or both sectors as a trip? Emirates relies quite heavily on married segments so the availability can differ if searching segment by segment might show different availability.

2) I've noticed that Emirates will often still sell F seats even when J is overbooked to the point that the F cabin will already be full. They clearly take the view that the additional revenue from selling an F seat is greater than downgrading/offloadinga a J passenger. This is similar in J when Y is heavily overbooked

Sc0tty - if you share the exact date of your flights, I will see if I can get the exact load for you if it's T-48...
Thanks mate.

I am looking at a 'married' segment - PVG to GLA on the 20th March.

Depart PVG on EK303 on 20th March and then EK027 on 21st of March.

Thank you.

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Old Mar 18, 2019, 3:36 am
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Originally Posted by S c 0 TT y
Sorry, don't get it?

Do you mean that its full in Y or oversold?
i mean over sold
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Old Mar 18, 2019, 4:30 am
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Originally Posted by m3red
Thats still probably over in y
If they were only selling Flex Plus tickets I'd tend to agree. However, with Flex tickets (W, M and B) still for sale I think they expect there will be empty seats.
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Old Mar 18, 2019, 6:40 am
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Originally Posted by ft101
If they were only selling Flex Plus tickets I'd tend to agree. However, with Flex tickets (W, M and B) still for sale I think they expect there will be empty seats.
ive seen loads show like that when y is over and there is plenty of space up front esp a380 flights...this is based on actual figures and comparing with what EF says
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Old Mar 18, 2019, 10:56 am
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Originally Posted by S c 0 TT y
Thanks mate.

I am looking at a 'married' segment - PVG to GLA on the 20th March.

Depart PVG on EK303 on 20th March and then EK027 on 21st of March.

Thank you.
EK303 is overbooked by a decent amount. I'll pm you the exact load. Can't see the other flight yet.
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Old Mar 20, 2019, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by Lkaroo


EK303 is overbooked by a decent amount. I'll pm you the exact load. Can't see the other flight yet.
told you...
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Old Mar 20, 2019, 9:52 pm
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No upgrade, it wasn’t overbooked. The check in staff told me that the load is high but sests in economy are available (scattered around the cabin).
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Old Mar 20, 2019, 10:46 pm
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Originally Posted by S c 0 TT y
No upgrade, it wasn’t overbooked. The check in staff told me that the load is high but sests in economy are available (scattered around the cabin).
So EK’s revenue management algorithms got it right again.
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Old Mar 21, 2019, 12:39 am
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Originally Posted by S c 0 TT y
No upgrade, it wasn’t overbooked. The check in staff told me that the load is high but sests in economy are available (scattered around the cabin).
It would have been at points - they know how many no shows they will get
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Old Mar 21, 2019, 2:17 am
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Originally Posted by S c 0 TT y
No upgrade, it wasn’t overbooked. The check in staff told me that the load is high but sests in economy are available (scattered around the cabin).
Really?! On the PVG-DXB leg it was overbooked by a decent margin...
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Old Mar 21, 2019, 2:47 am
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Originally Posted by Lkaroo


Really?! On the PVG-DXB leg it was overbooked by a decent margin...
Yeah, at check-in I asked straight up for chances of OP-UP and she said there is no chance as although business is full and economy has a few seats scattered around the cabins.

On the DXB-GLA leg just now and this is wide open, everyone seems to have a spare seat next to them lol.
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Old Mar 21, 2019, 2:52 am
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Originally Posted by S c 0 TT y
Yeah, at check-in I asked straight up for chances of OP-UP and she said there is no chance as although business is full and economy has a few seats scattered around the cabins.

On the DXB-GLA leg just now and this is wide open, everyone seems to have a spare seat next to them lol.
I suspect there was a combination of no shows/missed connections (not sure from PVG)/cancellations/people upgrading. Business still had a couple of seats free when I checked.
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Old Mar 21, 2019, 2:56 am
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Originally Posted by Lkaroo


I suspect there was a combination of no shows/missed connections (not sure from PVG)/cancellations/people upgrading. Business still had a couple of seats free when I checked.
I was one of the first people to check-in, when I got to the airport the desk was closed so i was in front of the queue waiting for the desks to be active. In case of no-shows, surely they would have found out nearer to check-in being closed, as with OP-UPS too?
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