EK/BE codeshare deal ex MAN,BHX and GLA
Jun 10, 2015, 7:16 am
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EK/BE codeshare deal ex MAN,BHX and GLA
Jun 10, 2015, 4:12 pm
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Jun 10, 2015, 5:52 pm
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Jun 11, 2015, 4:48 am
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NQY-LGW (indeed, NQY to any London airport) is specifically designated by the UK government as a Public Service Obligation route, which essentially allows the government to subsidise the route in its entirety and not contravene EU state aid rules. http://ec.europa.eu/transport/modes/...ket/pso_en.htm. It puts out the route to tender and pretty much pays FlyBE hard cash to operate it (different to situations where companies for instance agree to "underwrite" routes by purchasing x tickets).
Quite a few of them exist across the EU, and indeed in the UK - so essentially the government pays for air service to between regions it deems economically critical.
The UK government also exempts entire journeys from Air Passenger Duty (APD) where the first flight of a connected journey is on an non-chargeable aircraft; flights operated under a public service obligation (so not really "commercial") are exempt from APD, therefore starting your journey NQY-LGW-xxx would exempt your entire journey from APD.
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...tions-from-apd (sections 3.2 and 4)
Other interesting ones would be from the Scottish Highlands to Glasgow and then onwards - certain routes are also exempt.
Quite a few of them exist across the EU, and indeed in the UK - so essentially the government pays for air service to between regions it deems economically critical.
The UK government also exempts entire journeys from Air Passenger Duty (APD) where the first flight of a connected journey is on an non-chargeable aircraft; flights operated under a public service obligation (so not really "commercial") are exempt from APD, therefore starting your journey NQY-LGW-xxx would exempt your entire journey from APD.
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...tions-from-apd (sections 3.2 and 4)
Other interesting ones would be from the Scottish Highlands to Glasgow and then onwards - certain routes are also exempt.
Jul 13, 2015, 7:11 pm
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Second thoughts iv found them loaded for November15.
To answer the question posted up-thread, it does seem as if NQY-LGW is included in this deal with flights operating as EK4120/1, 4122/3 and 4124/5
And now looks as if they are actually loaded on the EK website from now, for booking today, however doesn't show on fr24 etc
cs
To answer the question posted up-thread, it does seem as if NQY-LGW is included in this deal with flights operating as EK4120/1, 4122/3 and 4124/5
And now looks as if they are actually loaded on the EK website from now, for booking today, however doesn't show on fr24 etc
cs
Jul 13, 2015, 10:11 pm
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Jul 14, 2015, 2:26 am
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After a few people write in and point it out, I hope it should be fixed, otherwise it's just a cash grab by EK...We have to remember that APD is an indirect tax that is payable by operators of aircraft, not a tax paid by passengers directly (although it is almost always passed on, much in the same way as VAT/Sales tax) - I can assure you that when EK prepares its APD returns, it should be classing NQY-LGW-XXX passengers as exempt passengers, as no duty is liable for them.
Whether they collect an extra £71 or not is up to EK