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eternaltransit Feb 1, 2015 2:21 am


Originally Posted by extramileage (Post 24270189)
Not as of this morning from what I can tell.

Burned more than 600k miles (including 300k just before midnight local time last night) in anticipation nonetheless!

Did you burn 600k on upgrades?! How did you even find any availability! Well done!

extramileage Feb 1, 2015 5:48 am


Originally Posted by eternaltransit (Post 24270724)
Did you burn 600k on upgrades?! How did you even find any availability! Well done!

EF is worth every penny!

But yes, all on upgrades to a variety of US destinations in spring and summer 2015.

I found a fair amount of availability to IAH and DFW (upgauge to A380), JFK for certain daily flights (3rd daily A380 added likely helps) as well as SEA and ORD (even saw Z3 D7 for LAX-DXB in July!). Both to and from Dubai.

ft101 Feb 2, 2015 12:16 am

It all seems a bit of an anticlimax now.

Past the deadline and no change that I can see.

TaipeiWang Feb 2, 2015 12:26 am

looks like the changes aren't online yet. Everything is the same. Maybe its market specific?

*The new fare types will be available in most markets.

Clayton Seymour Feb 2, 2015 12:35 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 24270634)
Probably have to wait until it's 1st February everywhere.

In most places it's now the 2nd & nothing appears to have changed. I'm wondering if I book a flight today, will it still be covered by the old rules?

Once the changes do take effect, I intend to ditch the MBNA Skywards Elite credit card & replace it with the MBNA Etihad Guest credit card. Anyone got both these cards? I've only had the Elite since November & I'm afraid it wont look too good, if I apply for another MBNA card, so soon after receiving the Elite card. Hence my temptation to book a last flight on EK.

cargueiro Feb 2, 2015 1:56 am

This is really annoying.

I was looking forward to buying a Flex Plus this morning and it still isn't available.

Pretty poor punctuality.

jamjaruk Feb 2, 2015 4:50 am


Originally Posted by Clayton Seymour (Post 24276067)
In most places it's now the 2nd & nothing appears to have changed. I'm wondering if I book a flight today, will it still be covered by the old rules?

Once the changes do take effect, I intend to ditch the MBNA Skywards Elite credit card & replace it with the MBNA Etihad Guest credit card. Anyone got both these cards? I've only had the Elite since November & I'm afraid it wont look too good, if I apply for another MBNA card, so soon after receiving the Elite card. Hence my temptation to book a last flight on EK.

Only have the Emirates Elite card. I still think this is great value for me for the following reasons:

1. My yearly spend is very high and hence I earn a lot of miles with EK.
2. Emirates spend is 4 miles per £1 spent
3. 10% off Emirates Holiday
4. Business class check-in

If they take, (2), (3) and (4) away from me I will ditch the card.

They may accept you, but likely they will reduce your limit on your EK card. But you should wait for 6 months after card opened.

jamjaruk Feb 2, 2015 4:51 am


Originally Posted by cargueiro (Post 24276235)
This is really annoying.

I was looking forward to buying a Flex Plus this morning and it still isn't available.

Pretty poor punctuality.

They said February 2015. Could be last day of the month :p:D

Clayton Seymour Feb 2, 2015 5:24 am


Originally Posted by jamjaruk (Post 24276596)

They may accept you, but likely they will reduce your limit on your EK card. But you should wait for 6 months after card opened.

That's what I was thinking however, there wont be an EK Elite card to reduce the limit - I'll no longer need it - switching to EY full stop once the devaluation takes effect. I'd prefer to cancel the EK card forthwith & start earning on the Etihad Guest card.

Flying to BKK & return this month so, I'll try & burn most of my remaining miles.


Originally Posted by jamjaruk (Post 24276596)
They said February 2015. Could be last day of the month

I've wondered about that too. If so, I would book one last return flight with them, as an additional opportunity to burn my remaining miles. Failing that, I guess I'll be taking a few short trips on EasyJet.

TaipeiWang Feb 2, 2015 5:29 am

but why would they write that you have to book before 1/31 when you can in fact do it anytime until they actually change it?

daisymay2 Feb 2, 2015 7:11 am

No changes to air fares yet on booking page?
Thought it was rolling out Feb - or as someone else said could they be waiting for the end of the month? :confused:

lighthand Feb 3, 2015 10:56 am

Just to confirm W fare is considered flex or flex plus?

eternaltransit Feb 3, 2015 12:38 pm


Originally Posted by lighthand (Post 24284784)
Just to confirm W fare is considered flex or flex plus?

According to QF it will be Flex, not Flex Plus - but I'm sure we will find out soon!

lighthand Feb 4, 2015 7:37 am


Originally Posted by eternaltransit (Post 24285434)
According to QF it will be Flex, not Flex Plus - but I'm sure we will find out soon!

I just booked my latest flight (W). According to EK website, miles awarded remains the same as pre-Feb.

m3red Feb 4, 2015 9:08 am


Originally Posted by lighthand (Post 24289622)
I just booked my latest flight (W). According to EK website, miles awarded remains the same as pre-Feb.

Let me see if I can get an update tomorrow✈️

Gringuito Feb 4, 2015 12:28 pm

Why everybody is impatient to see the new rates?
The longer we can book at older rates, the better it is (more miles earning, cheaper upgrades...)

m3red Feb 4, 2015 6:10 pm


Originally Posted by Gringuito (Post 24291344)
Why everybody is impatient to see the new rates?
The longer we can book at older rates, the better it is (more miles earning, cheaper upgrades...)

There is no guarantee the old redemption rates still apply

ft101 Feb 5, 2015 12:20 am

I'm just cheesed off that I made a couple of bookings last Saturday, including one outside the (then) current bookable dates, to get them in before the changes.

I could potentially have taken my time and saved some money if things had been clear.

m3red Feb 5, 2015 4:00 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 24294577)
I'm just cheesed off that I made a couple of bookings last Saturday, including one outside the (then) current bookable dates, to get them in before the changes.

I could potentially have taken my time and saved some money if things had been clear.

its coming soon (this month), current rules apply until launch.

ft101 Feb 5, 2015 6:04 am


Originally Posted by m3red (Post 24295176)
its coming soon (this month), current rules apply until launch.

Yes, I spoke to a guy this morning to change a flight, and he said he'd had his training last Friday and was among the last group to be trained. He had expected the same start date as us, but only because he's also a Skywards member and had read the website. He hadn't been told a start date as an employee, and still doesn't know a definite date - just this month sometime.

He did indicate that there were now better miles earning opportunities, but didn't seem impressed when I pointed out it was probably only going to be true if you paid significantly more.

One thing he mentioned that I hadn't picked up on was the new lower levels of miles equate to 25%, 35% and 70% of those earned before. I don't know if that's across the board, or an average or what.

ft101 Feb 11, 2015 1:13 pm

The new fares have arrived.

Just having a play now.

eternaltransit Feb 11, 2015 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 24333080)
The new fares have arrived.

Just having a play now.

Wow, that was absurdly lucky of me, I booked a ticket 3 hours ago on old earning rates :D

eternaltransit Feb 11, 2015 1:24 pm

Quick update, checking some usual routes:
W is Flex
R,E,Y Flex Plus as we speculated before via QFF

Fares seem to have not changed, only mileage earning.

ft101 Feb 11, 2015 1:33 pm

I know we may be seeing different things as it rolls out, but I'm not seeing any of the cheapest Special Fares. Saver is the lowest and the 4th column of fares goes to the lowest of the next class up (J Saver or F Saver).

Saver shows the same price as before, but does that mean lower fares will come with the Specials?

daisymay2 Feb 11, 2015 1:39 pm

I'm not seeing new fares just changes to mileage too.

jamjaruk Feb 11, 2015 5:20 pm

To be fair to Emirates, this system looks a lot better and so much easier to understand in terms of charges etc.

jamjaruk Feb 11, 2015 5:24 pm

Only seeing saver and flex plus in business. Flex plus costs £5,285

All 3 choices available in economy

Both saver and flex plus in first class. Flex plus return will cost £6,600

London Heathrow to dubai March

Did they change their system last minute? I'm sure I saw 3 options in economy, 3 in business and 1 in first

eternaltransit Feb 11, 2015 5:30 pm


Originally Posted by jamjaruk (Post 24334903)
Only seeing saver and flex plus in business. Flex plus costs £5,285

All 3 choices available in economy

Both saver and flex plus in first class. Flex plus return will cost £6,600

London Heathrow to dubai March

Did they change their system last minute? I'm sure I saw 3 options in economy, 3 in business and 1 in first

Depends on which server you are redirected to, I think. fly10.emirates.com had the old system whilst at the same time fly4 has the new look booking engine. It still has some problems - for instance, in the new booking engine, you can select on the interface different classes on outbound/inbound sectors whereas previously before you couldn't, but then that throws up an error when you proceed to confirm.

jamjaruk Feb 11, 2015 5:32 pm

There is definitely a price increase.

In economy, in previous system a full flex would cost £764, now a flex plus costs £842

eternaltransit Feb 11, 2015 5:39 pm


Originally Posted by jamjaruk (Post 24334950)
There is definitely a price increase.

In economy, in previous system a full flex would cost £764, now a flex plus costs £842

Cheapest flex in the old system was a W class fare, now the cheapest flex plus is R class, hence the price increase. Fares don't seem to have changed on a fare bucket basis.

In terms of getting the full range of fares - it seems to depend on your initial class selection. If you select "Economy" you are shown Economy Saver, Flex, Flex Plus and Business Saver. If you select "Business" you are shown Business Saver, Flex, Flex Plus and First Saver. If you select "First" you are shown First Saver and First Flex Plus. Note if you use Advanced Search you don't get any choice in which fare class you can buy at the moment. You are given the cheapest for your class of service.

Incidentally, First Saver is cheaper than Business Flex Plus on some routes! And the mileage earning on First Saver and First Flex Plus on say, LHR-BKK is 19497 and 19500...I think I know which one I would go for, considering the restrictions are 300 GBP for refund and 200 GBP for changes whereas Flex Plus has no change/refund charges...!

modularmayhem Feb 11, 2015 7:57 pm

anyone worked out how to do a stopover in DXB when booking a flex fare?
i used to just do it as a multi city booking, but when i do that now it only offers econ / business / first, i.e No option to select flex

torontoflyer Feb 11, 2015 9:51 pm

Am I the only one who is getting this message on every Y Fare (Flex Plus included).

"*This fare type can only be upgraded with Miles when checking in for your flight."

Maybe its an IT related error?

TaipeiWang Feb 12, 2015 12:24 am

I get a pretty good flex plus price, much cheaper than before!?

http://s4.postimg.cc/7xuy8sucb/Scre...3_26_08_PM.png

ft101 Feb 12, 2015 12:56 am


Originally Posted by modularmayhem (Post 24335740)
anyone worked out how to do a stopover in DXB when booking a flex fare?
i used to just do it as a multi city booking, but when i do that now it only offers econ / business / first, i.e No option to select flex

I think there's still a lot to sort out. Hopefully it's still rolling out, but almost 12 hours after I first saw it and there's still lots missing, I have my doubts.

TaipeiWang Feb 12, 2015 12:58 am

I think the new fares are pretty good, however I can't see any saver or special saver fares. But when I select a business saver inbound and flex outbound I get some fantastic prices and the milages is ok. Maybe it's all good after all?

aceboy44 Feb 12, 2015 1:02 am

Last month I got my Y class ticket KWI - KUL - KWI for 189 KWD with 4,000 tier miles.

Looking at the same fare/destination again, it is still the same price, except that instead of earning 4,000 tier miles for the flight I earn 2,800 tier miles for booking with the lowest fare.

DYKWIA Feb 12, 2015 2:21 am


Originally Posted by aceboy44 (Post 24336724)
Last month I got my Y class ticket KWI - KUL - KWI for 189 KWD with 4,000 tier miles.

Looking at the same fare/destination again, it is still the same price, except that instead of earning 4,000 tier miles for the flight I earn 2,800 tier miles for booking with the lowest fare.

That sounds pretty much like what I was expecting.

The lowest prices are aimed at the once a year EK passengers who don't care about the miles. They won't notice any difference.

kuroko Feb 12, 2015 2:36 am

here something regarding the booking classes...

Economy
Special: X/V
Saver: Q/L/T
Flex: U/B/M/W
Flex Plus: R/E/Y

Business
Special: O
Saver: O/I
Flex: C
Flex Plus: J

First
Flex: A
Flex Plus: F

Farebase indicator:
F=Flex Plus
S= Flex
P = Saver
R = Special

I.e: U....PAE1 = Saver (always 4th from right)
A business O class fare could be a special or a saver.

Dave Noble Feb 12, 2015 2:45 am

I class can be either saver or flex depending on the route

kuroko Feb 12, 2015 3:21 am

Sure? Even a SYDAKL is a flex, also DXBKWI etc.


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