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Old Oct 21, 14, 11:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Emirates202 View Post
I feel that anyone that thinks OP is complaining too much should put themselves in his shoes. Say you were him, a 16 year old who deserved lounge access but were denied it, I doubt that you would say, "oh well, rules are rules, ill just go sit in the terminal."
Its not about 'sitting alone in the terminal". There is a dedicated lounge for unaccompanied minors - but the OP doesn't want to use that. That's the problem.
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Old Oct 22, 14, 2:12 am
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At 16 most airlines don't consider you an unaccompanied minor - this is the problem - there is a gap between unaccompanied minor-land and adult lounge access.
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Old Oct 22, 14, 3:17 am
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Originally Posted by jackiedada View Post
Its not about 'sitting alone in the terminal". There is a dedicated lounge for unaccompanied minors - but the OP doesn't want to use that. That's the problem.
Hi is not an unaccompanied minor; Emirates is happy to treat him as an adult in relation to fare paid
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Old Oct 22, 14, 3:17 am
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Originally Posted by NYTA View Post
At 16 most airlines don't consider you an unaccompanied minor - this is the problem - there is a gap between unaccompanied minor-land and adult lounge access.
Well there certainly doesn't appear to be a 'gap' at DXB, simply because the OP was (as jackiedada points out) offered the chance to make use of the UM lounge facility but felt that it was not good enough for him.

The issue has certainly provoked a lively debate and now seems to have been examined from pretty much every angle.

I for one was pleased to see the OP take gracious note of all the comments and (given how tedious some of his rant & complaints have become) feel he does deserve credit for apologising for - in his own words - all the "unnecessary whining" along with his promise that this will be his last complaint against EK !
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Old Oct 22, 14, 3:39 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble View Post
Hi is not an unaccompanied minor; Emirates is happy to treat him as an adult in relation to fare paid
Actually, he is a "Young Passenger" as described on EKs website. And, I don't think its in EKs hands to grant him lounge access.
Due to local licensing laws, lounge access may not be available to unaccompanied minors and young passengers.

Besides, with the kind of stories that we hear, I think it is in the best interests of safety and security that kids < 16 be in a 'protected' lounge, rather than on their own in a huge lounge at DXB that can be completely deserted at certain times of the day.
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Old Oct 22, 14, 3:43 am
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Originally Posted by jackiedada View Post

Besides, with the kind of stories that we hear, I think it is in the best interests of kids < 16 be in a 'protected' lounge, rather than on their own in a huge lounge at DXB that can be completely deserted at certain times of the day.
There I would disagree

The basic choice otherwise for the passenger is generally sit in general departures area

I think that the OP has a good reason to be annoyed
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Old Oct 22, 14, 5:07 am
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Originally Posted by Ahmed777 View Post
"Why!? You do realize I just got off a 15-hour flight from SFO?"
"Yes, I do understand your situation. If you want, I can escort you to the UM lougne where you can sleep"
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There I would disagree

The basic choice otherwise for the passenger is generally sit in general departures area

I think that the OP has a good reason to be annoyed
Doesn't seem to be the case.
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Old Oct 22, 14, 5:16 am
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That one agent offered it once does not mean that to go to the kiddies lounge will be offered next time. He is not a UM
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Old Oct 22, 14, 5:29 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble View Post
That one agent offered it once does not mean that to go to the kiddies lounge will be offered next time. He is not a UM
http://www.emirates.com/english/plan...ed_minors.aspx
Young Passengers are entitled to Unaccompanied Minors service if specifically requested by the parent or guardian.
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Old Oct 22, 14, 6:59 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble View Post
That one agent offered it once does not mean that to go to the kiddies lounge will be offered next time. He is not a UM
It was offered to me twice in all my visits, which has been a lot. I politely decline their offer for many reasons:
- there is no shower, the biggest reason for this thread.
- there is no food (there are biscuits of an awful quality and water from a dispenser).
- there is no wifi.
- you are not permitted to leave to urchase food/drink/other items.

It is basically a room where you sit amongst other 12-year old children and wait. No comforts are offered except for couches. Compared to the F lounge that I was entitled to, this is by far of an inferior standard. It is like paying for F but the airline not allowing you to sit there due to your age, so you are put in Y as a "courtesy" on their part.

Originally Posted by jackiedada View Post
http://www.emirates.com/english/plan...ed_minors.aspx
Young Passengers are entitled to Unaccompanied Minors service if specifically requested by the parent or guardian.
I do not want the whole service. I am perfectly able to navigate my way around DUR, DXB amd LHR. I do not need them to watch me like a hawk, as well as wait in the plane until all others have departed, etc.

Dave is quite right. With all due respect jackiedada, I would not take the UM service as it was designed for 12-year old children maximum (according to the EK website). They cater for 16-year olds on request. Something I do not want anymore.

Thanks for all the interesting comments.
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Old Oct 22, 14, 7:03 am
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Just a question, did you tried the other lounges? There are couple of C and F lounges in DXB, and at some the lounge personal might be fresh, not care so much, or simply think you're 18+..
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Old Oct 22, 14, 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by YuropFlyer View Post
Just a question, did you tried the other lounges? There are couple of C and F lounges in DXB, and at some the lounge personal might be fresh, not care so much, or simply think you're 18+..
Tried all 3 terminals J lounges. Did not try all F lounges.
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Old Oct 22, 14, 7:37 am
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Originally Posted by YuropFlyer View Post
Just a question, did you tried the other lounges? There are couple of C and F lounges in DXB, and at some the lounge personal might be fresh, not care so much, or simply think you're 18+..
Unfortunately I suspect there might be some truth in the comments - a little unkind though they might seem to many - by extramileage re Ahmed 's details having been circulated to ALL lounge personnel at DXB (I won't re-quote the post here, but it's #13 if anyone's still interested....)

I was once told by an 'insider' that notes are sometimes kept by lounge supervisors re past issues, inc. details of pax who are deemed - whether wrongly or rightly - to have been 'problematic'.
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Old Oct 22, 14, 9:50 am
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Unfortunately I suspect there might be some truth in the comments - a little unkind though they might seem to many - by extramileage re Ahmed 's details having been circulated to ALL lounge personnel at DXB (I won't re-quote the post here, but it's #13 if anyone's still interested....)

I was once told by an 'insider' that notes are sometimes kept by lounge supervisors re past issues, inc. details of pax who are deemed - whether wrongly or rightly - to have been 'problematic'.
I don't understand the first part of this post?

Why would my details have been circulated to all lounge personnel? What have I done wrong exactly?
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Old Oct 22, 14, 11:05 am
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Originally Posted by Ahmed777 View Post
I don't understand the first part of this post?

Why would my details have been circulated to all lounge personnel? What have I done wrong exactly?
Constantly try to get into lounges you know you're not entitled to?
Bribing staff?

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