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Tips on how to convince a lounge dragon...

Old Oct 20, 14, 6:45 am
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Originally Posted by Ahmed777 View Post
. . . . and have Investec Private Banking . . .
A quick look indicates this gives you Priority Pass Lounge Access.

Why not use this in DXB?
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Old Oct 20, 14, 8:07 am
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Originally Posted by ft101 View Post
A quick look indicates this gives you Priority Pass Lounge Access.

Why not use this in DXB?
Priority pass is age restricted . You have to be at least 18 AFAIK. Children can be guested in by an adult though.
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Old Oct 20, 14, 9:03 am
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I just had enough time to kill, did a check run on the OP's other posts. With the instincts which I use for my job I truly believe that the OP writes some good screenplays. He/she ran into one two many ''odd'' situations, its ring a bell, atleast to me. Am I the only one ?

Blame it on the nature of my work.. Ha ha..!
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Old Oct 20, 14, 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble View Post
The use of term "dragon" as a term for a lounge agent has been being used by numerous people on the fora and seems quite unreasonable to pick on this person using the term; searching around and will find lots of posts referring to agents as such
I've been on FT for 13 years so I do know this. And I disagree with you on this point: just because a word is used a lot doesn't mean it's right, particularly when it's referring to people doing their job. Any study of rap lyrics will reveal that
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Old Oct 20, 14, 1:16 pm
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Originally Posted by jackiedada View Post
You definitely have money to throw . Besides, that borders on being a 'bribe' and not a tip - she could have lost her job had someone seen it....
It was a half-bribe half-tip.

I am of Arab ethnicity. What do you expect...

Originally Posted by Lux View Post
Regardless of the OP's age I'm going to have to pick up on this use of 'dragon'. It's not on, and if that's the attitude you take with you then you will be denied access. Being nice to people generally gets better results.

I've been to a <lot> of airport lounges in the past 20 years, and met my share of unhappy or inflexible staff, but Emirates lounge agents are consistently friendly and helpful. So - please, no derogatory language. Harry Potter references do not justify it.
I did not mean the term in a derogatory manner. I was merely using a common name for the agents that is used throughout the fora, as Dave stated.

I apologise if I have offended anyone.

Originally Posted by Dave Noble View Post
The use of term "dragon" as a term for a lounge agent has been being used by numerous people on the fora and seems quite unreasonable to pick on this person using the term; searching around and will find lots of posts referring to agents as such


Originally Posted by ft101 View Post
A quick look indicates this gives you Priority Pass Lounge Access.

Why not use this in DXB?
I had no idea that my bank provided me with this! I know I get access to Preier Lounges within SA, but had no idea it reached internationally.

What lounge is it? Is it the EK lounge or another?

Originally Posted by stacer11 View Post
I just had enough time to kill, did a check run on the OP's other posts. With the instincts which I use for my job I truly believe that the OP writes some good screenplays. He/she ran into one two many ''odd'' situations, its ring a bell, atleast to me. Am I the only one ?

Blame it on the nature of my work.. Ha ha..!
Surely if one travels as much as one does, then it is just natural to run into odd situations on some flights?

Why would I post about the ordinary?

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I've been on FT for 13 years so I do know this. And I disagree with you on this point: just because a word is used a lot doesn't mean it's right, particularly when it's referring to people doing their job. Any study of rap lyrics will reveal that
Again, I apologise if I have offended anybody with the use of the term "dragon."

It is commonly used and is not meant, in any way, to be derogatory.


My reason for the initial post was to highlight what I found to be a rather annoying part of flying EK. It was mainly to vent, as well as to hear others opinions into the matter, as well as advice on how to continue.

I thank those who have provided constructive ideas that could possibly help, like emailing them in advance or leaving my passport with them.

I would not like to use the shower in the terminal for many reasons:
- It is generally not the cleanest of showers. I know that there is an attendant, but there is a lingering smell I found when I used it previously.
- They do not provide amenities.
- They do not provide a towel.
- There is no hairdryer (I need this).
- There is nowhere to shave and brush teeth with privacy.
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Old Oct 20, 14, 3:10 pm
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Ahmed, I would give up while you're (just) ahead. You obviously live a pretty privileged life, but your constant whining about inconsequential issues rubs me up the wrong way, and I don't believe I'm alone. The reference to the bribe (which you appear to pass off as normal for a person of your extraction) is particularly concerning, especially coming from a teenager. As is the condescending tone you adopt in reference to EK staff. Take some time to consider your behaviours: some adjustment might see some of these issues you raise, fade away.

I know this post will seem judgmental : it is intended that way.
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Old Oct 20, 14, 3:20 pm
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Ahmed, I would give up while you're (just) ahead. You obviously live a pretty privileged life, but your constant whining about inconsequential issues rubs me up the wrong way, and I don't believe I'm alone. The reference to the bribe (which you appear to pass off as normal for a person of your extraction) is particularly concerning, especially coming from a teenager. As is the condescending tone you adopt in reference to EK staff. Take some time to consider your behaviours: some adjustment might see some of these issues you raise, fade away.

I know this post will seem judgmental : it is intended that way.
What he said!
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Old Oct 20, 14, 8:31 pm
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I can empathize with OP and it's really frustrating. Many years ago I was regularly (almost every month) flying KLM between LAX and AMS in J. The dragons at the old Northwest lounge would not let me enter because at the time I under 21.

After a few complaints, the KLM station manager eventually got involved and it became my regular routine to be escorted to the lounge with a KLM employee that would "supervise me."

I like the idea of having FTers adopt him when in DXB.
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Old Oct 20, 14, 10:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Wan1dap View Post
Ahmed, I would give up while you're (just) ahead. You obviously live a pretty privileged life, but your constant whining about inconsequential issues rubs me up the wrong way, and I don't believe I'm alone. The reference to the bribe (which you appear to pass off as normal for a person of your extraction) is particularly concerning, especially coming from a teenager. As is the condescending tone you adopt in reference to EK staff. Take some time to consider your behaviours: some adjustment might see some of these issues you raise, fade away.

I know this post will seem judgmental : it is intended that way.
Well said! I agree 100%
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Old Oct 20, 14, 11:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Wan1dap View Post
Ahmed, I would give up while you're (just) ahead. You obviously live a pretty privileged life, but your constant whining about inconsequential issues rubs me up the wrong way, and I don't believe I'm alone. The reference to the bribe (which you appear to pass off as normal for a person of your extraction) is particularly concerning, especially coming from a teenager. As is the condescending tone you adopt in reference to EK staff. Take some time to consider your behaviours: some adjustment might see some of these issues you raise, fade away.

I know this post will seem judgmental : it is intended that way.
I feel pretty sure you are indeed NOT alone Wan1dap, and from a quick scan of various comments on this thread (and similar, past threads), I get the distinct impression that your comments encapsulate the thoughts of many others here.

Language from the OP such as "I refuse to give up on this" and "I demand a shower" reflect a perspective on life that says ...... because I am privileged and already enjoy the trappings that come from my healthy bank account even at 16, then the rules which apply to everyone else should obviously not apply to me


Such an attitude is never a pleasant trait to see in a person of ANY age - let alone a teenager. It's interesting that the OP seems unwilling to simply respect the policy, and its consistent application by any number of EK staff across the various DXB lounges. The incident where he appears to have circumvented these access rules by means of a bribe is especially concerning - not least the fact that, when challenged by others, the practice is then justified by the OP as being normal/acceptable behaviour, with all the implications that this has for later adult life.

But, more than anything, it is - as Wan1dap says - this pattern of constant whining that has become tiresome, along with a general attitude that the world and its citizens must always bend to my sense of priorities & requirements, rather than the other way round.
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Old Oct 21, 14, 1:23 am
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Originally Posted by ukdoctor View Post
Priority pass is age restricted . You have to be at least 18 AFAIK. Children can be guested in by an adult though.
Yes it is not available to those under 18 I see. Interesting that OP appears to use it in DUR.
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Old Oct 21, 14, 1:32 am
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Originally Posted by ft101 View Post
Yes it is not available to those under 18 I see. Interesting that OP appears to use it in DUR.
There are a few possibilities .

1. The PP access could be based on vouchers which are sent by the bank and not the membership card.
2.Maybe the rules are not strictly enforced at DUR.
3.OP could be using someone else's PP maybe his dad's(Very common even in UK and will work if you have the same surname.)


PP (at least in The UK) refuses to send a PP membership card unless the pax is over 18.

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Old Oct 21, 14, 1:45 am
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Originally Posted by Lux View Post
I've been on FT for 13 years so I do know this. And I disagree with you on this point: just because a word is used a lot doesn't mean it's right, particularly when it's referring to people doing their job. Any study of rap lyrics will reveal that
I assume you don't watch Dragons Den on BBC (as a matter of principle )as its full of dragons

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Old Oct 21, 14, 3:34 am
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Originally Posted by Wan1dap View Post
Ahmed, I would give up while you're (just) ahead. You obviously live a pretty privileged life, but your constant whining about inconsequential issues rubs me up the wrong way, and I don't believe I'm alone. The reference to the bribe (which you appear to pass off as normal for a person of your extraction) is particularly concerning, especially coming from a teenager. As is the condescending tone you adopt in reference to EK staff. Take some time to consider your behaviours: some adjustment might see some of these issues you raise, fade away.

I know this post will seem judgmental : it is intended that way.
Shame there isn't a like button on this site because I'd be using it now.
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Old Oct 21, 14, 8:28 am
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It seems that my posts have been awfully misconstrued, which has created quite a bad impression of myself. I am not (and do not intend to be) flippant towards EK staff whatsoever, and I apologise if my post(s) have seemed that way.

I'm sure that you would feel the same way should you be in my situation. The rule should be lowered to, at most, 16, as that is the age at which I feel it is acceptable to be allowed entry on your own and to be able to care for yourself. Of course this is debatable, and that others may have opinions which differ from my own. I feel that continually denying access to a sixteen year old with no justification was rather unfair, as other airlines (and outstation lounges) do not do this.

You could only know how annoying it is after being in the same situation.

Perhaps EK could be more accommodating as well, and allow me just a shower, as that is what I want so awfully. Is it so awful to desire a nice, hot shower after spending 15-hours on a plane? This also benefits the passengers around me, if you know what I mean.

Consider this my last complaint about EK, as they are clearly not taken well and constructively. I assumed that EK would like to cater for every customer, but it seems that they only care for those over eighteen. I also would like to honestly apologise for my unnecessary whining, which I accept responsibility for and thank you for pointing out. I understand why this would be annoying, especially on a forum of this stature.

I, however, resist the implication that I get what I want and that I circumvent my way around rules. Hear me loud and clearly please - I made my OWN money. What is in my bank account was made by me. Only me. I worked enterprisingly and made myself something from a relarively young age. Whatever my parents may have did not affect what I made. Myself.

I follow rules religiously. It is honestly just this rule that I really do not enjoy.

I will, in the future, find more legal ways of entry into the lounge, and I thank everybody for their constructive criticism.
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