Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > Emirates | Skywards
Reload this Page >

Has Business class become the new Economy ?

Has Business class become the new Economy ?

Old Dec 14, 13, 3:06 am
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,031
Has Business class become the new Economy ?

I expect to get flamed for this one, but who cares.

I'm a travel snob, that's an opening confession. I dislike people, generally, traveling people (and I don't mean of the Romany persuasion) even more so.

Sat in the Emirates lounge in Kuala Lumpur right now, and I'm appalled by the people in here. Badly dressed, feet on the table, and generally ill mannered.

I come from an age where you dressed up to travel, Blazer and slacks acceptable, not football shirts, sleeveless gym vests and flip flops.

Is it me, or are standards in deep decline, if not actual free fall, or is age and too much travel making me a grumpy old git.
tezzer is offline  
Old Dec 14, 13, 4:02 am
  #2  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: LPB
Programs: Skywards Gold, Miles & More, SPG, Marriott
Posts: 410
Maybe a bit of both

I do agree with you somewhat. I generally hate bad manners, but that's not just when flying. I guess we live in an age where flying is truly affordable for everyone. And in the same way, business class is within reach for more people.
Turicus is offline  
Old Dec 14, 13, 4:26 am
  #3  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,031
Doesn't matter tonight. Double beep at the gate and a good news story. J to F again. I love Emirates.
tezzer is offline  
Old Dec 14, 13, 4:29 am
  #4  
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Dubai
Programs: Emirates Platinum
Posts: 372
Yes, grumpy old git ^

Flying is no longer glamourous. Move on.
ghostwrita is offline  
Old Dec 14, 13, 4:47 am
  #5  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 41,418
Originally Posted by tezzer View Post

Is it me, or are standards in deep decline, if not actual free fall, or is age and too much travel making me a grumpy old git.
It's you. Scheduled aeroplane services are just a form of public transport like a bus or a train.
Dave Noble is offline  
Old Dec 14, 13, 4:48 am
  #6  
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: London
Posts: 604
Reminds me of the time when my father was horrified to see me dress in t-shirt & jeans for international travel, that too in business class.

On another note, bad manners are bad manners, no matter what generation.
678flyer is offline  
Old Dec 14, 13, 9:15 am
  #7  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 9,528
While seeing that sort of thing is commonplace in the J lounges, I have seen such activity in the F lounge too!
sadiqhassan is offline  
Old Dec 14, 13, 9:21 am
  #8  
Hyatt Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Between AMS and BRU
Posts: 8,799
Originally Posted by tezzer View Post
Sat in the Emirates lounge in Kuala Lumpur right now, and I'm appalled by the people in here. Badly dressed, feet on the table, and generally ill mannered.
Strange.... whenever I'm in a lounge the bad manners are normally displayed by those that aren't "badly" dressed.
RTW1 is offline  
Old Dec 14, 13, 1:21 pm
  #9  
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: AR
Programs: A bit of this and a bit of that
Posts: 687
I agree with you, completely. I'm not asking people to dress in Smoking/tuxedos/suits, but at least some decent clothes. I've seen people with football jerseys, flip flops and sports shorts in Business and First class lounges. And most of the times (or always?) they are the ones who shout, disturb, and annoy other passengers. And who's kids run around the lounge shouting and playing, as if no one was there. As an argentine, I'm getting used to it (and i know i shouldn't), because most of the people who travel here are like that.
tuchop is offline  
Old Dec 15, 13, 1:55 am
  #10  
formerly Bryce Curdy
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 103
'Grumpy old git' is being charitable, although perhaps my opinion should be taken with a pinch of salt because I'm typing my reply whilst wearing my dressing gown rather than the blazer I don't actually own.

'I dislike people' is hardly an endearing opening gambit.

Last edited by El Vercker; Dec 15, 13 at 1:57 am Reason: Further comment
El Vercker is offline  
Old Dec 15, 13, 2:30 am
  #11  
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 8,008
Originally Posted by tezzer View Post
Blazer and slacks acceptable, not football shirts, sleeveless gym vests and flip flops.
I've never worn a blazer since my schooldays and never slacks in all my life. They sound like some crimplene thing my old chemistry teacher might have worn.

I wouldn't wear the things you frown on either, but your alternatives are decidely dodgy.
ft101 is offline  
Old Dec 15, 13, 2:43 am
  #12  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: HaMerkaz/Exit 145
Programs: UA, LY, BA, AA
Posts: 13,112
I don't see the issue with wearing a T-shirt, regardless of cabin of travel.

I do see the problem with feet up on the table, regardless of cabin of travel, and regardless of whether in the lounge or not.
joshwex90 is offline  
Old Dec 15, 13, 3:23 am
  #13  
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MAN DXB ✈️
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 6,528
My flight to Man on Friday is at 3am

I will be in J class wearing comfortable tracksuit bottoms a t-shirt and trainers.

My next flight in F in Feb I will be ensuring flip flops, shorts and a scraggy t-shirt are worn.

Pay my money, wear what I like!
m3red is offline  
Old Dec 15, 13, 3:32 am
  #14  
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: 30,000ft
Programs: EK, BA, EY, SQ, IHG, HH, SPG
Posts: 670
Has Business class become the new Economy ?

I don't see the correlation with dress code and manners. Both are generally mutually exclusive. As far as what people wear in this age it really is up to the passenger and the any rules the airline has not some terrible middle class snobbery about what is expected. This is emirates not empire airlines! As far as being rude. Some of the rudest passengers I have seen have been dressed for the royal box at the guards's polo club!
Havoc10G is offline  
Old Dec 15, 13, 6:01 am
  #15  
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Dubai
Programs: Emirates Platinum
Posts: 372
Agreed Havoc. Lol @ "this is Emirates, not Empire Airline"

Manners are also relative. We tend to look at manners through our own cultural lenses.
ghostwrita is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Search Engine: