Has Business class become the new Economy ?
 

I expect to get flamed for this one, but who cares.

I'm a travel snob, that's an opening confession. I dislike people, generally, traveling people (and I don't mean of the Romany persuasion) even more so.

Sat in the Emirates lounge in Kuala Lumpur right now, and I'm appalled by the people in here. Badly dressed, feet on the table, and generally ill mannered.

I come from an age where you dressed up to travel, Blazer and slacks acceptable, not football shirts, sleeveless gym vests and flip flops.

Is it me, or are standards in deep decline, if not actual free fall, or is age and too much travel making me a grumpy old git.

Maybe a bit of both :p

I do agree with you somewhat. I generally hate bad manners, but that's not just when flying. I guess we live in an age where flying is truly affordable for everyone. And in the same way, business class is within reach for more people.

Doesn't matter tonight. Double beep at the gate and a good news story. J to F again. I love Emirates.

Yes, grumpy old git :D ^

Flying is no longer glamourous. Move on.

It's you. Scheduled aeroplane services are just a form of public transport like a bus or a train.

Reminds me of the time when my father was horrified to see me dress in t-shirt & jeans for international travel, that too in business class. :p

On another note, bad manners are bad manners, no matter what generation.

While seeing that sort of thing is commonplace in the J lounges, I have seen such activity in the F lounge too! :D

Strange.... whenever I'm in a lounge the bad manners are normally displayed by those that aren't "badly" dressed.

I agree with you, completely. I'm not asking people to dress in Smoking/tuxedos/suits, but at least some decent clothes. I've seen people with football jerseys, flip flops and sports shorts in Business and First class lounges. And most of the times (or always?) they are the ones who shout, disturb, and annoy other passengers. And who's kids run around the lounge shouting and playing, as if no one was there. As an argentine, I'm getting used to it (and i know i shouldn't), because most of the people who travel here are like that.

'Grumpy old git' is being charitable, although perhaps my opinion should be taken with a pinch of salt because I'm typing my reply whilst wearing my dressing gown rather than the blazer I don't actually own.

'I dislike people' is hardly an endearing opening gambit.

I've never worn a blazer since my schooldays and never slacks in all my life. They sound like some crimplene thing my old chemistry teacher might have worn.

I wouldn't wear the things you frown on either, but your alternatives are decidely dodgy.

I don't see the issue with wearing a T-shirt, regardless of cabin of travel.

I do see the problem with feet up on the table, regardless of cabin of travel, and regardless of whether in the lounge or not.

My flight to Man on Friday is at 3am

I will be in J class wearing comfortable tracksuit bottoms a t-shirt and trainers.

My next flight in F in Feb I will be ensuring flip flops, shorts and a scraggy t-shirt are worn.

Pay my money, wear what I like!

Has Business class become the new Economy ?
 

I don't see the correlation with dress code and manners. Both are generally mutually exclusive. As far as what people wear in this age it really is up to the passenger and the any rules the airline has not some terrible middle class snobbery about what is expected. This is emirates not empire airlines! As far as being rude. Some of the rudest passengers I have seen have been dressed for the royal box at the guards's polo club!

Agreed Havoc. Lol @ "this is Emirates, not Empire Airline"

Manners are also relative. We tend to look at manners through our own cultural lenses.