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HB7 Oct 13, 2013 3:17 am

Upgrade Help Required
 
Hi All,

I have gone through quite a few posts and realized that upgrading on EK is becoming a more and more difficult task. I would like to fly to Tunisia (from Melbourne) soon and I have 155000 skywards points - no status. I want to buy an economy class ticket and upgrade Mel to Dxb to J and the return Dxb to Mel leg in J as well.

I'm ready to buy a flex ticket and my date of departure is roughly the first week of December and return 31st December 2013. I call the Melbourne EK office and they said there is no availability at all to get a reward upgrade in the first of December ex Melb on any of the three daily flights out? Will this change at all?

Will expert flyer be of any assistance to me?

Thanks in advance!

DYKWIA Oct 13, 2013 3:44 am

Having a flex ticket will help. As will an ExpertFlyer or KVS subscription.

You should be able to see how busy the flights are at the moment. If they're all booked up in J - then the chances of upgrading are obviously going to be slim.

If there's plenty of availability, then you could set up an alert for when award availability pops up.

Turicus Oct 13, 2013 4:18 am

Can someone explain this whole availability thing? EF only shows if a seat is taken or not, not if it's available for miles. Is this because I use the free version? It also doesn't know my ticket type (flex/saver) which influences upgrade availability.

ft101 Oct 13, 2013 4:29 am

I disagree with the comments ref flex ticket being beneficial.

The OP has enough miles and if an upgrade seat becomes available it's first come, first served regardless of flex/saver ticketing.

An EF subscription will give prompt notice of any availability but it could be only days ahead of travel and cannot be guaranteed.

m3red Oct 13, 2013 4:39 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 21599406)
I disagree with the comments ref flex ticket being beneficial.

The OP has enough miles and if an upgrade seat becomes available it's first come, first served regardless of flex/saver ticketing.

An EF subscription will give prompt notice of any availability but it could be only days ahead of travel and cannot be guaranteed.

flex and saver come from the D bucket so makes no difference except it will cost you less miles if you buy flex...

Turicus Oct 13, 2013 4:50 am

But with some savers you can only upgrade 24h before takeoff, by which time the seat could be gone.

Does EF Pro show the airfare code for available seats? Cause I can't see it (may be doing it wrong).

HB7 Oct 13, 2013 7:05 am

Thanks for all the help guys,

I'm aware what expert flyer is and it's benefits, however - is it accurate?

Also - whats KVS?

ft101 Oct 13, 2013 9:46 am


Originally Posted by Turicus (Post 21599456)
But with some savers you can only upgrade 24h before takeoff, by which time the seat could be gone.

You will know this from your booking in which case there's no real point in checking much ahead of time. As you say, the seat may go.

jackiedada Oct 13, 2013 12:53 pm


Originally Posted by Turicus (Post 21599395)
Can someone explain this whole availability thing? EF only shows if a seat is taken or not, not if it's available for miles. Is this because I use the free version?

Yes, you need to upgrade to the paid version if you would like to check 'D'/ 'Z' which is the y-J and J-F upgrade inventory for a flight+date.

jackiedada Oct 13, 2013 1:57 pm


Originally Posted by Turicus (Post 21599456)
Does EF Pro show the airfare code for available seats? Cause I can't see it (may be doing it wrong).

Get the paid version - I believe they have a 5 or 7 day free trial....

DYKWIA Oct 13, 2013 1:59 pm


Originally Posted by Turicus (Post 21599456)
But with some savers you can only upgrade 24h before takeoff, by which time the seat could be gone.

Exactly...

edy4eva Oct 13, 2013 3:02 pm

Thinking outside the square, I looked availability for the OP on EF on the mentioned dates ex-MEL, SYD, ADL, BNE, and PER with +/-3 days margin. I even looked ex-AKL.

The only available combination was PER-DXB-TUN on 28-Nov, return on 30-Dec. Each with almost 12 hour stop in DXB and an awkward arrival time to PER on the way back. The upshot is the lower cost in miles for upgrading.

EK423/EK747 and EK748/EK424. But the OP needs to be quick, there's only 1 seat on the PER sectors. He can book a MEL-PER-DXB-TUN return on EK, then call to upgrade the EK sectors. Unfortunately he won't avail the chauffeur drive in MEL, nor be able to fly MEL-PER in J.

Hope this helps.

HB7 Oct 13, 2013 9:39 pm


Originally Posted by edy4eva (Post 21601635)
Thinking outside the square, I looked availability for the OP on EF on the mentioned dates ex-MEL, SYD, ADL, BNE, and PER with +/-3 days margin. I even looked ex-AKL.

The only available combination was PER-DXB-TUN on 28-Nov, return on 30-Dec. Each with almost 12 hour stop in DXB and an awkward arrival time to PER on the way back. The upshot is the lower cost in miles for upgrading.

EK423/EK747 and EK748/EK424. But the OP needs to be quick, there's only 1 seat on the PER sectors. He can book a MEL-PER-DXB-TUN return on EK, then call to upgrade the EK sectors. Unfortunately he won't avail the chauffeur drive in MEL, nor be able to fly MEL-PER in J.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for that edy4eva, that was helpful until my boss has thrown a spanner in the works today :eek:

I will now need to fly to London to attend to some business - so I will fly to London, then take a flight Tunis, then fly Tunis back to Melbourne.

If I'm not mistaken, if you buy a saver fare now, you can only upgrade via points AFTER check in - what the hell has program sunk to?

Turicus Oct 13, 2013 9:49 pm


Originally Posted by jackiedada (Post 21601164)
Yes, you need to upgrade to the paid version if you would like to check 'D'/ 'Z' which is the y-J and J-F upgrade inventory for a flight+date.

Thanks, really helpful! Clear and concise. :)

ft101 Oct 14, 2013 12:32 am


Originally Posted by HB7 (Post 21603062)
If I'm not mistaken, if you buy a saver fare now, you can only upgrade via points AFTER check in - what the hell has program sunk to?

Not entirely right, but not far off. There are still Saver Fares that are upgradeable in advance, only they're the more expensive fare codes.

HB7 Oct 14, 2013 7:58 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 21603476)
Not entirely right, but not far off. There are still Saver Fares that are upgradeable in advance, only they're the more expensive fare codes.

Yes ft101 - you're correct there are certain fairs that you can get as saver and still upgrade prior to departure. However these fares are quite similar in price to a flex ticket I found out today

ft101 Oct 14, 2013 10:52 am


Originally Posted by HB7 (Post 21604592)
Yes ft101 - you're correct there are certain fairs that you can get as saver and still upgrade prior to departure. However these fares are quite similar in price to a flex ticket I found out today

See my reply on one of your other threads.


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