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dc2447 Feb 28, 2013 10:49 am

First Time on EK - op up probability?
 
Hi - first time poster in this forum :)

Reading the threads with intrest re op ups.

i am a first time traveller LHR - SYD in J, single traveller on PNR, Skywards new member (no status) flying Saturday

Threads seem to suggest I have a reasonable chance of an op up to F.

How would you rate my chances? Any tips like BA (check in at airport etc)?

sadiqhassan Feb 28, 2013 11:30 am

Welcome to the EK forum!

I would say your odds are close to 0. You would need

1. A flight full in J and open in F.
2. Zero Skywards Silver or Gold Members on the flight in J.
3. Extremely good luck.

I think #2 would be the biggest hurdle, if there are any EK FFs they would be upgraded first.

brown1950 Feb 28, 2013 12:45 pm


Originally Posted by sadiqhassan (Post 20333972)
Welcome to the EK forum!

I would say your odds are close to 0. You would need

1. A flight full in J and open in F.
2. Zero Skywards Silver or Gold Members on the flight in J.
3. Extremely good luck.

I think #2 would be the biggest hurdle, if there are any EK FFs they would be upgraded first.

Very interesting as i have been having a discussion with a gentleman who said he 'blagged' an upgrade from J to F in the Emirates lounge at Manchester
Airport on the afternoon Manchester A380 to Dubai. Considering this gentleman had no status with Emirates i challenged his story as 'fantasy' you can read the thread here :-

http://www.pattayatalk.com/forums/to...emirates-a380/

Comments would be appreciated.

Europeanexplorer Feb 28, 2013 1:00 pm


Originally Posted by brown1950 (Post 20334475)
Very interesting as i have been having a discussion with a gentleman who said he 'blagged' an upgrade from J to F in the Emirates lounge at Manchester
Airport on the afternoon Manchester A380 to Dubai. Considering this gentleman had no status with Emirates i challenged his story as 'fantasy' you can read the thread here :-

http://www.pattayatalk.com/forums/to...emirates-a380/

Comments would be appreciated.

While this may occasionally happen (even though it should not), I would not exactly consider it to be the norm. I have heard of certain people receiving their fair share of upgrades (either because they are an IO or because they are important), but the great majority of the time the only reason EK upgrades someone is for operational reasons.

Therefore, I agree that the OP's chances are slim to none. LHR-DXB and DXB-SYD are premium heavy flights with plenty of Skywards Gold/Silver passengers in J.

DYKWIA Feb 28, 2013 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by dc2447 (Post 20333694)
Hi - first time poster in this forum :)

Reading the threads with intrest re op ups.

i am a first time traveller LHR - SYD in J, single traveller on PNR, Skywards new member (no status) flying Saturday

Threads seem to suggest I have a reasonable chance of an op up to F.

How would you rate my chances? Any tips like BA (check in at airport etc)?

Which threads are you referring to?

As Sadiq says, you've a very small chance of a opup.

dc2447 Feb 28, 2013 1:33 pm

Forum sticky...

planes&trains Feb 28, 2013 5:46 pm

I get so disheartened when I read these posts about pax with status in J being upgraded. I am EK Gold and fly J and I was never upgraded. I am close to being convinced that EK has me on a blacklist. :(

Will someone please put in a word for me? On EK204 03/05 :)

francen Feb 28, 2013 11:37 pm

a friend of mine and his wife flew their first time with emirates 2 weeks ago VIE-DXB and both got an opup Y-J.

They dont have Skywards (neither before nor afterwards) and they've never flown with EK before.

They did OLCI as i advised them in case EK overbooks and got called out before boarding at the gate where they recived their new BPs.

Last name starts with a J for that matter.

m3red Feb 28, 2013 11:43 pm


Originally Posted by francen (Post 20337756)
a friend of mine and his wife flew their first time with emirates 2 weeks ago VIE-DXB and both got an opup Y-J.

They dont have Skywards (neither before nor afterwards) and they've never flown with EK before.

They did OLCI as i advised them in case EK overbooks and got called out before boarding at the gate where they recived their new BPs.

Last name starts with a J for that matter.

Lucky but it happens. Importantly the key difference here is y to j. Our friend here is in j. I would imagine there will be plats and golds on this route so he has pretty much zero chance of an op up.

On the other point being upgraded ex uk is a nightmare esp ex man. I am yet to get one...

jackiedada Feb 28, 2013 11:49 pm


Originally Posted by LandingGear (Post 20336285)
I get so disheartened when I read these posts about pax with status in J being upgraded. I am EK Gold and fly J and I was never upgraded. I am close to being convinced that EK has me on a blacklist. :(

Will someone please put in a word for me? On EK204 03/05 :)

LandingGear, all the best for your flight on 3/5 - I can see that F is relatively unsold so far which is good, but so is J :(.

The problem with JFK-DXB is that it is fairly status heavy as well as premium heavy. 25+ Golds in J regularly is not uncommon on weekends. F is usually close to being sold out, so you are talking about just 4-5 seats being available for op-ups. Combine these two and you'll probably get a sense of why it is hard to snag an op-up.

I can think of far more cases where the gate agent has asked me if I could travel on a later flight as there is no scope for upgrades as the premium cabins are all full, than when I have been upgraded. In fact my op-up frequency ex JFK was ZERO for the past 3 years until just about a couple of months back.

Maybe you can try to make Platinum and that would completely flip things over?

planes&trains Mar 1, 2013 12:23 am


Originally Posted by jackiedada (Post 20337791)

Maybe you can try to make Platinum and that would completely flip things over?

That would be nice. But doesn't look likely this year.

Good luck with your flight this weekend.

marconess Mar 1, 2013 4:59 am

At the end of the day guys, think of the thousands of people who travel on EK every week. Then think of the large group that a regs on this forums and travel EK. Now look at the number of people who have written on the OP-UP thread.

If you go around assuming, hoping, expecting to be upgraded randomly you're more likely to be disappointed. Expect the level of service for that you have paid for and anything else is a bonus.

dc2447 Mar 1, 2013 9:03 am

who is assuming anything?

/heads back to BA forum for reasonable discussion

DYKWIA Mar 1, 2013 9:11 am


Originally Posted by dc2447 (Post 20339715)
who is assuming anything?

/heads back to BA forum for reasonable discussion

Yes, the BA forum is full of reasonable discussions recently... :D

Did you really think you had a reasonable chance of a J-F upgrade without *any* status? You have about as much chance as a BA blue getting a J-F upgrade on BA - a very slim chance.

m3red Mar 1, 2013 11:32 am


Originally Posted by dc2447 (Post 20339715)
who is assuming anything?

/heads back to BA forum for reasonable discussion

I suggest you go back to the "national carrier" put back on you blinkers and don't come back!

:rolleyes:


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