Zol

A very good article analysing the new partnership, its effect on EK, QF and its main rivals and their respective airport hubs

Qantas-Emirates partnership: How other players are affected
http://www.aspireaviation.com/2012/0...-are-affected/

Qantas/Emirates partnership to reshape competitive landscape
http://www.aspireaviation.com/2012/0...ive-landscape/

Budley

Yes, good articles indeed.

One thing that no-one seems to have mentioned is the impact on DXB itself.

This airport is already over capacity in terms of flights and pax and having QF deposit quite a few more of both will make it an unpleasant experience for most pax. They will miss the quiet ambience of Singapore.

It can't really go on like this. Building another terminal is not the answer.

Zol

You make a good point. I would be interested in reading an analysis on the impact this will have on DXB's Concourse A & B. Having said that, it will all depend on what time they bring the QF birds in. If the connections into Europe are going to work, they will have to arrive just before the early morning departure bank of 6-8 am which will be along with the Asian arrivals.

chinatraderjmr

True, but building another 2 terminals might. It was not long ago that none of the current terminals were even standing. DXB was a tiny little boxlike building w not even a jet bridge. DXB has built the current 2.5 terminals in the same amount of time that it took JFK to build T-4. I can't see how the "relatively" few extra planes coming up from QF will make that much of a difference. That said, your right. It will never be the oasis that SIN is

Zol

Proposed new QF schedule with Dubai transit

Sydney – Dubai – London Heathrow Daily A380 service
QF001 SYD1605 – 0035+1DXB0205+1 – 0635+1LHR 388 D
QF002 LHR2130 – 0715+1DXB0920+1 – 0510+2SYD 388 D

Melbourne – Dubai – London Heathrow Daily A380 service
QF009 MEL1525 – 2325DXB0110+1 – 0540+1LHR 388 D
QF010 LHR2230 – 0815+1DXB0950+1 – 0515+2MEL 388 D

FlyerTalker688786

They still need to sit the aircraft for 17 hours in LHR! I thought the whole idea for QF to fly via DXB is to make A380 stay shorter time in LHR!

Zol

ACCC proposes to grant conditional authorisation for an alliance between Qantas and Emirates

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has issued a draft decision proposing to grant authorisation, subject to a condition, for five years for an alliance between Qantas Airways Limited and Emirates. Under the alliance, the two airlines will cooperate on passenger and freight operations across their networks.

http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index...fromItemId/142

Dave Noble

Very disappointing. Another reduction in competition

marconess

That seems an insane time to be parked?!

Dave Noble

They do not *need* to stay 17 hours in London, QF chooses to leaver them there; QF could have the flights depart for Australia at lunchtime if they wanted to or have a daytime service from Australia to arrive in the evening into London

Zol

As per 15JAN13 GDS timetable and inventory display, QANTAS has opened reservations for codeshare service operated by Emirates, starting 31MAR13. To-date, only 2 European routes has been opened for reservation under “QF” code, while other routes will be opened for sale progressively during the course of next few weeks.

Dubai – Manchester
EK021/QF8021 DXB0300 – 0740MAN 77W
EK017/QF8017 DXB0755 – 1225MAN 388 D

EK018/QF8018 MAN1410 – 0015+1DXB 388 D
EK020/QF8020 MAN2100 – 0705+1DXB 77W D

Stopover traffic at Dubai is permitted

Dubai – Milan Malpensa
EK101/QF8101 DXB0340 – 0825MXP 332 D
EK093/QF8093 DXB0905 – 1345MXP 773 D

EK094/QF8094 MXP1520 – 2325DXB 773 D
EK092/QF8092 MXP2220 – 0630+1DXB 773 D

Dubai – Milan Malpensa is only available for connection from QF coded flights, stopover at Dubai is not permitted.

At present time, QANTAS is only codesharing on 2 of 3 daily Emirates’ Manchester and Milan Malpensa service.

http://airlineroute.net/2013/01/15/q...share-update1/

jackiedada

Zol, do you have any idea of the mileage bonuses being offered to QF members based on their tier status? Would be a interesting to know what EK is offering QF Silvers, Golds, Plats, and Plat 1s. Anyone from QF listening?

serfty

jackiedada

...but not announced. Doesn't help much unfortunately.

serfty

I'm sure much will be revealed soon enough ...