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whimike Apr 14, 2012 2:05 am

Continual problems with STPC in DXB
 
Its pretty simple, Emirates is to pay for hotel accomodation when transit time is more than 6 hours when flying in F or J.

First time I tried to get an STPC, flying in paid F, I was denied in DXB because I didn't call EK and request the STPC.

Second time I called and booked the STPC. Arrived in DXB and they wanted to put me in the same room as the person I was traveling with. Learned that I need to request separate rooms as only 1 room is provided if tickets are on the same PNR. So, pay for 2 F tickets and travel with an associate, and you will have 1 room if you don't know to request 2.

Third time I called and booked STPC and requested 2 rooms, this time on paid J. Arrive to DXB and they only show one of us as having a room, put the other at the Millennium dump they use for Y passengers.

Fourth time I called and booked STPC and requested 2 rooms, paid J again. Arrive to DXB and they have no record of any booking. After a while they find 2 rooms at the Al Bustan Rotana.

Fifth time, just a week ago, in paid F. I called and booked STPC with 2 rooms Arrive at DXB and they have no record of my reservation. Then they said they have a record of a Chauffeur drive booked to the Le Meridian, but that is all. I ask them to figure out it since I for sure made the reservation and nearly every past STPC reservation I have had has had issues. The lady says all the hotels are sold out and tough luck. After some words she goes and gets the supervisor. He looks at a computer and tells me that the Le Meridian is sold out and he has no rooms for me. I ask about the Al Bustan, he says sold out because of a cancelled flight. Millennium, sold out. Basically, they show that somebody booked a Chauffeur drive but nobody booked the STPC.

All past times they found a way to accommodate, but this time they refused to do ANYTHING. Clearly the agent made an error since all they did was book Chauffeur drive to the Le Meridian, but the EK staff basically had the attitude that they don't care and have no responsibility. It is 1 AM at night and they left me to go find a hotel on my own.

Does anybody know of a concrete way to get an STPC booked without all of these issues?!

B747-437B Apr 14, 2012 2:37 am

I have always received a physical voucher when my STPC was confirmed. It required going to the local EK office to pick up, but it is a physical confirmation of the hotel booking (that immigration often asks to see anyway).

eightblack Apr 14, 2012 2:41 am

Strewth, sounds like a nightmare. Are you booking all your tickets online? Or do you do it thru an agent or local EK office?
I make most of my bookings thru the local EK office and while I have never used the STPC "feature" I am confident that it would be taken care of.

I would keep the receipt of this stay and forward to EK for re-imbursement.

whimike Apr 14, 2012 3:23 am


Originally Posted by eightblack (Post 18390562)
Strewth, sounds like a nightmare. Are you booking all your tickets online? Or do you do it thru an agent or local EK office?
I make most of my bookings thru the local EK office and while I have never used the STPC "feature" I am confident that it would be taken care of.

I would keep the receipt of this stay and forward to EK for re-imbursement.

I book all my tickets online. My local EK "office" is the ticket desk at SFO airport, which is about an hours drive away.

The first time I flew out of DFW, I had called EK to ask about setting up a Chauffeur drive and the EK agent told me that I had been approved for a STPC and the Le Meridian had been confirmed. I had not requested one because I didn't qualify for one on that flight since there was another flight possible with a 3-hour layover. But, if they were offering and approving, I asked and found out they had booked a single room for both travelers, so I asked if we can get 2 rooms. The agent put me on hold and then came back and told me that my flight doesn't qualify for the STPC and Dallas had made an error approving us for one, and that he can't get us a 2nd room, and not only that, he was canceling the 1 room that was confirmed.

That was the only experience I have had with them offering a STPC without me requesting it. Every time since I have had to request it, and never has anybody given me the physical voucher.

whimike Apr 14, 2012 3:27 am


Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 18390555)
I have always received a physical voucher when my STPC was confirmed. It required going to the local EK office to pick up, but it is a physical confirmation of the hotel booking (that immigration often asks to see anyway).

Immigration has never once asked me where I am staying, but that may be because I am from a visa waiver country and don't have to deal with any visa. Plus, now with e-gate I rarely deal with them anyway.

Complicating things is that most of my flights have been originating from NBO and CAI, and I am basically transiting those airports. Going to a local EK office there to pick up a voucher is unlikely, unless I can pick it up in the airport within the transit area.

edy4eva Apr 14, 2012 6:53 am

STPC always worked like clock work for me. Book tickets, call EK and get the STPC vouchers issued and delivered to the airport, where upon check in I get them.
Once in BEY, had upgraded to J and so paid the departure taxes but forgot to pick up the receipt and the STPC voucher. The check in agent brought them to my seat on the plane.

I am surprised you never got told of the green voucher for STPC, or have things changed recently?

edy4eva Apr 14, 2012 6:59 am

I forgot to add, not only EK gets the vouchers ready for pick up from the airport you're departing from but also from the other end (for example, for a SYD-DXB-BEY return ticket vouchers -for both outbound and inbound will be ready for collection at SYD. After arriving to BEY and changing the return dates a new voucher is issued and set ready for pick up at BEY).

B747-437B Apr 14, 2012 7:03 am


Originally Posted by edy4eva (Post 18391277)
I forgot to add, not only EK gets the vouchers ready for pick up from the airport you're departing from but also from the other end (for example, for a SYD-DXB-BEY return ticket vouchers -for both outbound and inbound will be ready for collection at SYD. After arriving to BEY and changing the return dates a new voucher is issued and set ready for pick up at BEY).

Exactly the same here in my experience. Always had physical STPC vouchers for the entire trip provided at the first point of departure (or at any EK ticket office in advance of that). In case of date change for the return, the STPC voucher would be revalidated at the airport of check-in for the return flight.

SimplyFCO Apr 14, 2012 7:14 am

Never actually booked STPC before the flight, if needed I just ask upon check-in and have always been confirmed, only once was I given a voucher and that was at the check-in desk..

ung1 Apr 14, 2012 12:07 pm

Perhaps whimike never received any because his trips originate from NBO/CAI and he only transits there, so no visit to check in!

whimike Apr 14, 2012 2:03 pm


Originally Posted by ung1 (Post 18392706)
Perhaps whimike never received any because his trips originate from NBO/CAI and he only transits there, so no visit to check in!

Correct. But, the STPC desk has always written out the voucher upon arrival up DXB, even for STPCs coming from the USA transiting DXB to CAI/NBO.

yanny baba Apr 14, 2012 4:28 pm

When I first saw the thread about an American traveller being treated with heart problems in Tehran, I was worried it was Whimike that had succumbed, whilst still apoplectic about another STPC shambles.

Glad to see you up and posting again:D

whimike Apr 14, 2012 6:09 pm


Originally Posted by yanny baba (Post 18393952)
When I first saw the thread about an American traveller being treated with heart problems in Tehran, I was worried it was Whimike that had succumbed, whilst still apoplectic about another STPC shambles.

Glad to see you up and posting again:D

:D :D

Hahaha... Well... Even though it would seems otherwise by how I post, I don't let these issues get to me and live a relatively low-stress life.

In fact, posting my experiences on FT gets rid of any stress that could build. It's therapy!!

And... With my track record with EK, if I were to have a heart attack it would be over the North Pole!!!!

CommittedLurker Apr 14, 2012 9:52 pm

I pick up my STPC vouchers either at SFO or CCU, my origin/dest airports, for my Dubai stopovers.

From the US, I always book the STPC stay on the customer service number, which usually connects to Mumbai it seems.

In any case, the agent can book your stay, and also email you a copy of the reservation. You can then use this to pick up your STPC voucher at SFO airport.

I have done this nearly 20x with no issues so far (fingers crossed).

I hope this helps.

homer3152 Apr 15, 2012 5:57 am

Actually, here in Germany the first problem is to get a STPC at all. Often the argument is: you colud take another flight (usually a night flight from here) in which case you dont need a STPC - thats the policy of EK Germany. Fortunately, the international line based in the UK is more generous and I always get it there (big thank you to the friendly people on Emirates Europe phone line!). In this case I usually also get an e-mail with a revised travel plan indicating the stop -over - this should be possible in the US, too. And when you go to the check-in counter to get your physical voucher (for me usually FRA), you would always have this e-mail as a proof, in case they dont have it (never happened, though).So my advice: once you got the STPC confirmed on the phone ask for an additional e-mail confirming it, in case they dont offer it right away.

NoGoldAnywhere Apr 17, 2012 11:53 am


Originally Posted by homer3152 (Post 18396288)
Actually, here in Germany the first problem is to get a STPC at all. Often the argument is: you colud take another flight (usually a night flight from here) in which case you dont need a STPC - thats the policy of EK Germany. Fortunately, the international line based in the UK is more generous and I always get it there (big thank you to the friendly people on Emirates Europe phone line!). In this case I usually also get an e-mail with a revised travel plan indicating the stop -over - this should be possible in the US, too. And when you go to the check-in counter to get your physical voucher (for me usually FRA), you would always have this e-mail as a proof, in case they dont have it (never happened, though).So my advice: once you got the STPC confirmed on the phone ask for an additional e-mail confirming it, in case they dont offer it right away.

Hi Homer,

this is the policy:

If booked in U or above (suppose nothing under I comes in for you regardless) if EK can't provide a faster connection! from arrival in DXB within 8 hrs in Y or 6 hrs in J and F than it's EK's responsibility to arrange for your hotel (subj. to avail.)

Basically saying, if you want to fly out on an afternoon flight, then that is it. Even if the night connection is faster, it doesn't matter. EK can't dictate when you want to leave Germany!

Safe flying.

PS, love your You Tube videos about EK!

whimike Apr 17, 2012 8:32 pm


Originally Posted by NoGoldAnywhere (Post 18410466)
this is the policy:

If booked in U or above (suppose nothing under I comes in for you regardless) if EK can't provide a faster connection! from arrival in DXB within 8 hrs in Y or 6 hrs in J and F than it's EK's responsibility to arrange for your hotel (subj. to avail.)

In my case EK certainly takes no responsibility. They expect me to call them to request the STPC, and even then I haven't gotten them.

NoGoldAnywhere Apr 18, 2012 1:00 pm

@whimike! I wonder where your calls end up mate, sounds like a case of DXB syndrome to me! I say that lightly, but I work with them and I don't understand 90% of their procedures... Practice as you preach has gone out of the window, more a case of "do as I say, not as I do" tbh! Have you contacted your local Complaints department? If they don't react, email [email protected] or [email protected] ! You don't seem to be an "accidental Goldie" with your track record on here... so put particular attention to your status in your email! F - Class in Copthorne is a disgrace... Trust me, I learned a lot through this Forum and feeding it back to my superiors all the time, but it seems fruitless. Really sad!

Regards,

NGA

SimplyFCO Apr 20, 2012 4:51 pm

In the dxb lounge right now, apparently there were some changes to the rules as of 1 week ago (as I found out tonight). it seems like STPCs 'officially' require a minimum of t-24 to book or else they will not be confirmed (a new rule list came out last week apparently...). Hence, what I've been doing for the past few years (and have posted here recently) of getting the STPC booked at check-in, seems to be no longer valid..

On a side note, I confirmed the ticket at about t-30 but could not pay by cc w the call center due to my final destination being ADD. They told me it wouldn't be a problem, and I could pay/issue just before check-in and they would annotate the STPC request (which I made when confirming the flight). Departing I was told my STPC was waitlisted, arriving at DXB told that it wouldn't have been confirmed anyway as STPC is made only when the ticket was issued and that was less than t-24 (even though I had told the call center when confirming). Now stuck w a 10.5hr layover w/o STPC (getting to know the bar in the lounge quite well..).. Any thoughts on who I could complain to about this???
cheers

B747-437B Apr 20, 2012 5:32 pm


Originally Posted by SimplyFCO (Post 18432287)
Any thoughts on who I could complain to about this???

Rules have always been this way in my experience. If you ticket within 24 hours of departure, you are not eligible for chauffeur drive, STPC and a range of other benefits. Travel to/from most African destinations requires you to go in person to a ticket office with a copy of credit card and passport before the ticket will be issued, so you can pick up your STPC voucher at that time.

whimike Apr 20, 2012 11:10 pm


Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 18432475)
Rules have always been this way in my experience. If you ticket within 24 hours of departure, you are not eligible for chauffeur drive, STPC and a range of other benefits. Travel to/from most African destinations requires you to go in person to a ticket office with a copy of credit card and passport before the ticket will be issued, so you can pick up your STPC voucher at that time.

That is correct, it has always been a requirement to call before 24 hours to departure to get a STPC. Even calling 72 hours in advance I have been told I am wait listed as there is no availability at the hotel. So, YMMV.

On the other hand, when arriving in DXB I have always been able to schedule a Chauffeur drive at the airport and also a pickup, right there on the spot. I usually book them in advance, but on a few occasions I hadn't planned on using a Chauffeur drive, and in the case where they flat denied me a STPC even though I booked it, I walked up to the Chauffeur drive area and asked if it was possible to get one and they always say no problem.

B747-437B Apr 21, 2012 3:43 am


Originally Posted by whimike (Post 18433535)
On the other hand, when arriving in DXB I have always been able to schedule a Chauffeur drive at the airport and also a pickup, right there on the spot.

Departing the airport is never a problem for Chauffeur drive, but return pickups are sometimes an issue when booking within 24 hrs, especially if your departure is in the early morning bank.


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