Too many announcements onboard
#1
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Too many announcements onboard
So, I am starting to be genuinely fed up with that Welcome to ICE video in two languages from which there is no escape. There must be a specially trained group of jingle writers who are trained in making the airline background muzak as irritating as possible.
I also really don't care which route we will be taking and how high we will be flying, let alone how the weather might possibly turn out to be somewhere which is not within a continent of where I'm going. The languages spoken by the crew is somewhat cute but I'd still prefer silence.
IMHO, travellers in premium cabins should have an option of switching off all but those PA bits that are mandated by the law, i.e. safety and security, possibly also that heart warming welcome to Australia "you will be sniffed by dogs, we will snoop through your things, you will be caught and we will prosecute the life out of you" video [or equivalent in other destinations]. In fact, in the likes of first class those announcements should probably be switched off by default and the crew should check whether the traveler is familiar with the entertainment system or prefers an introduction on it.
So, what do you people think? I would definitely opt for a silent cabin if there was one.
I also really don't care which route we will be taking and how high we will be flying, let alone how the weather might possibly turn out to be somewhere which is not within a continent of where I'm going. The languages spoken by the crew is somewhat cute but I'd still prefer silence.
IMHO, travellers in premium cabins should have an option of switching off all but those PA bits that are mandated by the law, i.e. safety and security, possibly also that heart warming welcome to Australia "you will be sniffed by dogs, we will snoop through your things, you will be caught and we will prosecute the life out of you" video [or equivalent in other destinations]. In fact, in the likes of first class those announcements should probably be switched off by default and the crew should check whether the traveler is familiar with the entertainment system or prefers an introduction on it.
So, what do you people think? I would definitely opt for a silent cabin if there was one.
#2
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#5
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The volume levels are very different on different flights. Sometimes they are nice and quiet but sometimes one needs double the hair gel to stop the comb over from being blown away by the announcements.
#7
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I also think the same thing, but then I'm flying on EK twice a week, so it gets repetitive for me.
Anyone remember the previous ICE introduction video?.... that was at least triple the current one's length....
Anyone remember the previous ICE introduction video?.... that was at least triple the current one's length....
#9
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You should try Ryanair!
I always take my iPad and start watching it as soon as my bum hits the EK seat, but I do watch the safety video if only to encourage others to do so too.
I always take my iPad and start watching it as soon as my bum hits the EK seat, but I do watch the safety video if only to encourage others to do so too.
#10
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Agree completely. I was going to raise this on FT as a recent flight omitted the ICE intro video, which was welcome. I understand that the safety video has to be played, and in multiple languages. However, who needs to be told that there is IFE on the plane, when the monitor in front of them quite clearly states this? I think most of us would be happy with a compromise of simply being able to skip it once it starts.
Interruptions to the IFE should be limited to:
-Safety video (although a really smart IFE system should enable you to set your language and only play it once. It'd have to be subtitled to allow for those not wearing their headphones at the time...)
-Captain on PA
-FAs with *important* announcements like turbulence etc... Their comms handsets should really have two PA buttons, one for safety announcements and another for announcing duty free sales, charity efforts etc. The former would interrupt IFE and play on cabin speakers at a louder volume than the latter, which would not interrupt IFE.
Or am I just grumpy?
Interruptions to the IFE should be limited to:
-Safety video (although a really smart IFE system should enable you to set your language and only play it once. It'd have to be subtitled to allow for those not wearing their headphones at the time...)
-Captain on PA
-FAs with *important* announcements like turbulence etc... Their comms handsets should really have two PA buttons, one for safety announcements and another for announcing duty free sales, charity efforts etc. The former would interrupt IFE and play on cabin speakers at a louder volume than the latter, which would not interrupt IFE.
Or am I just grumpy?
#12
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Interesting viewpoint.
I actually believe that Emirates is DEFICIENT in their announcements because of their decision a few years ago to remove the automated audible alert when their seatbelt signs are turned on.
The plan was to replace the audible alerts with manual compliance checks by the crew, but many crews do not engage in proper proactive compliance checks with sleeping passengers - and indeed do not engage in compliance checks at all when the sign is illuminated during meal services. As a result, at any given time you probably have about half the cabin sitting without their seatbelts fastened - not because they are scofflaws but because they simply didn't notice it come on while watching ICE with headphones on.
Sadly it will probably take a bunch of injuries on a "western" flight (EK already had an issue related to this on one of their South Indian flights a couple years ago but it was hushed up) before this policy is reviewed again.
I actually believe that Emirates is DEFICIENT in their announcements because of their decision a few years ago to remove the automated audible alert when their seatbelt signs are turned on.
The plan was to replace the audible alerts with manual compliance checks by the crew, but many crews do not engage in proper proactive compliance checks with sleeping passengers - and indeed do not engage in compliance checks at all when the sign is illuminated during meal services. As a result, at any given time you probably have about half the cabin sitting without their seatbelts fastened - not because they are scofflaws but because they simply didn't notice it come on while watching ICE with headphones on.
Sadly it will probably take a bunch of injuries on a "western" flight (EK already had an issue related to this on one of their South Indian flights a couple years ago but it was hushed up) before this policy is reviewed again.
#13
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That's a fair point regarding the automated announcements - I hadn't noticed. Some Pursers do make a PA, which interrupts IFE when the sign is turned on, but I'm not sure if this is policy or individual initiative.
Furthermore, I'm not sure why they made that decision - personally, excessive announcements annoy me but I'd never have a problem with being told the seatbelt sign is on.
I've never used the in-seat phones, but I'd be interested to know how PA interacts with that, and what the other half of the conversation hears.
Furthermore, I'm not sure why they made that decision - personally, excessive announcements annoy me but I'd never have a problem with being told the seatbelt sign is on.
I've never used the in-seat phones, but I'd be interested to know how PA interacts with that, and what the other half of the conversation hears.
#14
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Oh yes, and on the ranting off about Emirates. I'm not sure when exactly it started but now they also tell you *on arrival* that there's a lounge at the airport that you can use if you fly outbound on first or business or are a skywards gold. What the he** is the point of that?
#15
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I actually believe that Emirates is DEFICIENT in their announcements because of their decision a few years ago to remove the automated audible alert when their seatbelt signs are turned on.
Sadly it will probably take a bunch of injuries on a "western" flight (EK already had an issue related to this on one of their South Indian flights a couple years ago but it was hushed up) before this policy is reviewed again.
Sadly it will probably take a bunch of injuries on a "western" flight (EK already had an issue related to this on one of their South Indian flights a couple years ago but it was hushed up) before this policy is reviewed again.
In any case, I do personally always have my seat belt on. Did any of you read the final report of the investigation into the Qantas incident where the plane just plunged mid-flight. The conclusion was that there really was no clear reason why the equipment malfunctioned, and the report even speculated on whether cosmic rays could have caused it. Highly unlikely but not entirely impossible. Imagine a component with a shielding deficiency and a bit of external energy hitting the CPU during some critical operation, causing unexpected branching. This is theoretically plausible and in fact a common attack method in security assessments, but normally more energy is required. However, when the malfunction rates are in the range of one per million hours of operation, it is hard to predict them and it's just best be prepared.