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eightblack Jul 8, 2011 3:11 am

You know the Load Controller likes you when you see this...
 
I had pre-selected 18H.

Logged in around 4pm SIN time today. Saw this. All good is all I can say...:)
Whenever you "lose" your seat, it is normally always a good sign...

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1...10708atpm0.png

jackiedada Jul 9, 2011 11:07 am


Originally Posted by eightblack (Post 16690407)
Here's another data point.

Lets say one of you is Gold. And the other is Blue. You are either on a joint booking (single PNR) or you have linked PNR's (which can be done via reservations). This is most often done when their are kids on the reservation.

When the flight is under departure control, the load controller will actually split the 2 x pax as far as upgrade priority is concerned, as you will be processed via status. You just have to hope that the EK person is astute enough to realise that the second person on the reservation needs to come with you.

I will let you know how up to date this process is on Sunday when my daughter and I check in at MEL for the 405 back to SIN :)

I have two data points. We were on our honeymoon to Auckland in 2007 and it was my wife's first flight with EK. She had just registered as a Skywards blue member, and I had Gold. We both got upgraded to J on the Sydney Auckland legof our onward journey.

Year before last we were both traveling to JFK from BOM in J. On the BOM-DXB leg they upgraded me to F but when I enquired about my wife, they said that they couldn't upgrade her since she wasn't either a silver or a gold. This was actually quite a frustrating experience for both of us but they just refused.

I think it may also be station dependent since I have always had a very bad experience with the local staff here at BOM regarding opups. Of the 30-35 odd flights I have taken with EK over the past 6 years as a Gold member ex BOM, I have only been upgraded 2 times, compared to 50% flights ex-DXB until about last year where it was just once.

jackiedada Jul 9, 2011 11:10 am


Originally Posted by eightblack (Post 16691163)
I had pre-selected 18H.

Logged in around 4pm SIN time today. Saw this. All good is all I can say...:)
Whenever you "lose" your seat, it is normally always a good sign...

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1...10708atpm0.png

I've never seen my seat disappering in the past 6 years as gold. Never. And almost all of my upgrades have happened at the gate, except once when I was upgraded at check-in.

w00t Jul 9, 2011 11:13 am


Originally Posted by jackiedada (Post 16698642)
I've never seen my seat disappering in the past 6 years as gold.

Same here. Very interesting!


Originally Posted by jackiedada (Post 16698642)
And almost all of my upgrades have happened at the gate, except once when I was upgraded at check-in.

Complete opposite here. I always had my upgrade at check-in and only once from J to F at the gate.

B747-437B Jul 9, 2011 11:31 am

Op-up locations depend on station and when you checkin. All my three regular stations (ACC/DXB/BOM) have upgraded me both at checkin and at the gate depending on the situation. Last week in DXB, I was even upgraded after I had boarded (but missed out on the upgrade since I had agreed to a seat swap - so the other lady got my upgraded seat instead :mad:).

GigoloArt Jul 9, 2011 11:46 am


Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 16698745)
Last week in DXB, I was even upgraded after I had boarded (but missed out on the upgrade since I had agreed to a seat swap - so the other lady got my upgraded seat instead :mad:).

ROFL!!!

Zol Jul 9, 2011 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by eightblack (Post 16691163)
I had pre-selected 18H.

Logged in around 4pm SIN time today. Saw this. All good is all I can say...:)
Whenever you "lose" your seat, it is normally always a good sign...

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1...10708atpm0.png

I tried doing that for the 385 to DXB yesterday and it showed a blank screen and on it in red something along the lines of "you cannot access the seatmap as it is now in the control of the airport"


Originally Posted by jackiedada (Post 16698636)
Year before last we were both traveling to JFK from BOM in J. On the BOM-DXB leg they upgraded me to F but when I enquired about my wife, they said that they couldn't upgrade her since she wasn't either a silver or a gold. This was actually quite a frustrating experience for both of us but they just refused.

I have heard about this before for BOM flights. A colleague who is a blue member inquired and got the same response back about whether they were Silver/Gold member or not which I thought was odd given they have that info.

Originally Posted by jackiedada (Post 16698636)
I think it may also be station dependent since I have always had a very bad experience with the local staff here at BOM regarding opups. Of the 30-35 odd flights I have taken with EK over the past 6 years as a Gold member ex BOM, I have only been upgraded 2 times, compared to 50% flights ex-DXB until about last year where it was just once.

On the contrary I have had an almost 100% op-up (J-F) out of BOM but again haven't done anywhere near 30 flights to there.

ELITEGOLDTRAVELLER Jul 9, 2011 4:37 pm

OP But Why????
 
Hi Mates,

Consider this a RANT but try & be GENUINE & UNDERSTANDING from MY point of veiw. Consider this the OTHER prespective.

I fly F with EK alomst every week because of business. Have been doing this for 4 yrs now on a regular basis. Never seen an OPUP(you can not opup some one who is already in 1A:D)

I feel PISSED offffffff when some JACK ends up in 1E because of an OPUP & drinks & eats all the way to the end. The noise that he makes comes in on the house. This is STUPID.

SQ does not OPUP to F. Almost NEVER. If EK keeps on doing this then they will just end up losing revenue F paxs. Not fair when I blow $12000 on a TKT and a JACK gets it for $ 2900.

... should I pay this kind of money???? And then the OP's enjoy the F ride & to the max usually.

Yeaah I know I have disturbed quiet a few here by posting MY PERSPECTIVE but then why is EK trying to resemble SQ on 1 hand then behave like an EU or US airline?????????????????

Revenue YES but atleast keep the sanity of the F Cabin if you want to be a premier air carrier.

My Prespective.

Safe Flying

EGT

eightblack Jul 9, 2011 5:08 pm


Originally Posted by ELITEGOLDTRAVELLER (Post 16700034)
Hi Mates,

Consider this a RANT but try & be GENUINE & UNDERSTANDING from MY point of veiw. Consider this the OTHER prespective.

I feel PISSED offffffff when some JACK ends up in 1E because of an OPUP & drinks & eats all the way to the end. The noise that he makes comes in on the house. This is STUPID.

Ok, here's my point of view. Surely this is an exaggeration of all proportions.


Originally Posted by ELITEGOLDTRAVELLER (Post 16700034)
SQ does not OPUP to F. Almost NEVER. If EK keeps on doing this then they will just end up losing revenue F paxs. Not fair when I blow $12000 on a TKT and a JACK gets it for $ 2900.

... should I pay this kind of money???? And then the OP's enjoy the F ride & to the max usually.

You could also argue that they may increase F passengers by more J customers experiencing F. As you say, you "blow $12,000" on a ticket - but you're assured of an F ticket. Those op-ups are just that - and may not get to experience the F cabin again.


Originally Posted by ELITEGOLDTRAVELLER (Post 16700034)
Yeaah I know I have disturbed quiet a few here by posting MY PERSPECTIVE but then why is EK trying to resemble SQ on 1 hand then behave like an EU or US airline?????????????????

Revenue YES but atleast keep the sanity of the F Cabin if you want to be a premier air carrier.

My Prespective.

Safe Flying

EGT

I just don't find the argument credible. You pay F, you get F. Someone pays J, and they get to experience F (thru no fault of their own). You cant simply over generalise the argument and say that every op-upped F customer sits there and behaves like a barbarian.

ELITEGOLDTRAVELLER Jul 9, 2011 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by eightblack (Post 16700165)
Ok, here's my point of view. Surely this is an exaggeration of all proportions.



You could also argue that they may increase F passengers by more J customers experiencing F. As you say, you "blow $12,000" on a ticket - but you're assured of an F ticket. Those op-ups are just that - and may not get to experience the F cabin again.

I think who is in J will remain there on a majority basis. He will not end up spending the F price even if he is in that segment. So giving that J - F opup experience to sell the F cabin to the J pax next time is not a valid argument for sure.

I just don't find the argument credible. You pay F, you get F. Someone pays J, and they get to experience F (thru no fault of their own). You cant simply over generalise the argument and say that every op-upped F customer sits there and behaves like a barbarian.

Happens pretty often. More than I would want to & that too on the ULH flights unfortunately.

Safe Flying

EGT

Budley Jul 10, 2011 12:22 am


Originally Posted by ELITEGOLDTRAVELLER (Post 16700034)
Not fair when I blow $12000 on a TKT and a JACK gets it for $ 2900.

Do you personally, out of your own pocket, blow $12,000 on each and every ticket? If you do, I would feel some sympathy with you (and also maybe think you could do better things with your money, but that's your call).

If, on the other hand, the tix are paid for by your employer or someone else (eg the tax man), I would feel no sympathy whatsoever and hopefully I would never have the misfortune of sitting next to you.

Just my take...

:rolleyes:

Budley Jul 10, 2011 12:41 am


Originally Posted by eightblack (Post 16690380)
Like you, I've spent a lot of time on UA metal over the years and I have probably received 3 op-ups during that time. Sure, I've had 60-70 more - but they were all using upgrade instruments.

Well, seems like you have indeed been unfortunate. UA have been very good to me over the years; pity UA no longer exists, so I can no longer fly them.

I've never missed out on an Intercontinental upgrade on UA (and I've had a few) and I've been op-upped countless times, including several SYD-LAX in the same month, and also quite a few when travelling on award tix, especially out of LHR (this even happened to me a couple of weeks ago on an (unnamed) Asian carrier).

So compared with that, Emirates record isn't that great, but better than nothing. I probably don't do as well as some for op-ups on EK because I don't actively seek out flights that are likely to be overbooked. I just book the flights that suit me best, but even doing this I have discovered some flights to Europe where you can be virtually guaranteed an op-up if you have the status.

Oh, and I should say that if I were ever to be op-upped to 1st and placed in seat 1E next to Mr ELITEGOLDTRAVELLER, I would probably politely decline, or maybe not, so as to make his life hell (seems as if he deserves it).

yanny baba Jul 10, 2011 5:25 am


Originally Posted by ELITEGOLDTRAVELLER (Post 16700034)
Hi Mates,

Consider this a RANT but try & be GENUINE & UNDERSTANDING from MY point of veiw. Consider this the OTHER prespective.

I feel PISSED offffffff when some JACK ends up in 1E because of an OPUP & drinks & eats all the way to the end. The noise that he makes comes in on the house. This is STUPID.

SQ does not OPUP to F. Almost NEVER. If EK keeps on doing this then they will just end up losing revenue F paxs. Not fair when I blow $12000 on a TKT and a JACK gets it for $ 2900.

... should I pay this kind of money???? And then the OP's enjoy the F ride & to the max usually.

Yeaah I know I have disturbed quiet a few here by posting MY PERSPECTIVE but then why is EK trying to resemble SQ on 1 hand then behave like an EU or US airline?????????????????

Revenue YES but atleast keep the sanity of the F Cabin if you want to be a premier air carrier.

My Prespective.

Safe Flying

EGT

Outstanding, high quality rant there Mr Traveller.

Thanks for taking the time to brighten everyones day with your eloquent view on the life of the put-upon F passenger.

The amusing idea that you would spend $9000 to avoid the barbarian J pax, will have me laughing for a very long time.^

ung1 Jul 10, 2011 8:35 am

EGT,

If I were you I'd be threatening to quit my job unless my employer started forking out for me to fly private ;)

Arrow29 Aug 25, 2011 7:12 am

Figured better to post this here, rather than starting a new thread.

Have a flight in December from CDG-DXB that's showing no upgrade availability through Skywards or on ExpertyFlyer. Just wondering if upgrade availability can open up closer to the date of travel or if there's no chance? As I've noticed other flights in December (different routes) currently have upgrade availability then I'm assuming it's related to load factors, not time until travel date.

Thanks a lot.


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