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JTXC May 28, 2011 9:13 pm

Currently Silver, will achieved Gold on 27 June after a complex itinerary in J. Doing a lot of flying over the next year, so I should renew Gold in 2012.

I am curious if anyone has ever done an EK mileage run to keep status since the change with the Saver/ Flex fares.

Brussels traveller May 29, 2011 3:14 am


Originally Posted by mecabq (Post 16465495)
Even with savers, it's not that hard to make Gold. I should keep the status for the foreseeable future. (The UAE e-card is a strong incentive, as I am in Dubai a lot for business, leisure, or transit.)

I am surprised that the e-card is a strong incentive. You do know that anyone eligible can get one for a small fee - don't you?

ft101 May 29, 2011 6:16 am


Originally Posted by mecabq (Post 16465495)
Even with savers, it's not that hard to make Gold.

:confused:

Surely that depends on your travel profile?

grizz May 29, 2011 6:44 am

My wife and I are midway through year two of Gold Status. We are just normal travelling people, as in not for business purposes, therefore we are the ones that pay full price for all our tickets.

We have been loyal to EK, always paying more for the tickets than other Airlines. We now see what the loyalty has rewarded us with. Among other issues,the Flex/Saver issue is just to much. Planning a DXB-YYZ trip, it would have put us in year three. To late, go to book, and with the price to the Dirham, they now went from Flex to Saver.

Sorry for the long story, but we will now attempt to book with price ,and sked, in mind. Therefore, probably no more Gold. As was already commented, this is but a "drop in the ocean" but I am seeing and hearing this from more and more people all the time. You cannot keep kicking us and not think we will walk to the next counter.

This is my first post after 24 months of reading daily. It is great to read so many well informed comments and observations.

roadrunner21 May 29, 2011 7:47 am

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GigoloArt May 29, 2011 7:55 am


Originally Posted by callmethebreeze (Post 16465687)
Gold until 10/2011, but decided not to fly on EK anymore, so will not even reach Silver this year. :)

Don't you get a soft landing to Silver this year?

Budley May 29, 2011 9:49 am


Originally Posted by yanny baba (Post 16466182)
First hit Gold in September 2010 and re-qualified by March 2011 so good till September 2012.

Flex/Saver shenanigans have left me looking elsewhere for direct flights, rather than routing through DBX.

Since April 11, EK are already down @ GBP1500 on my spend, due to me using alternatives,

Maybe a drop in the ocean as far as EK are concerned, but the changes have focussed my (financial) attention elsewhere, and while the savvy travellers may only be a small percentage of the total, I'm all for spreading the word about my dissatisfaction.

Agree 100%

I'm EK Gold til Nov 12, but frankly I probably won't make any further bookings with them. Double cost to achieve Gold in the future, no spouse entry to lounges, poor award availability, squashy Y class cabins, etc, etc.

I'm also (lifetime) Gold with Star Alliance and One World, so why would I waste any further money with EK. I have no need to ever go to Dubai, and I don't even like the place.

As I'm spending my own money on my tix, I'll be directing it towards airlines that don't treat their Golds as brainless morons.

Let's hope that EK can fill all their new A380's with gullible travellers, because they will need to.

JudeS May 29, 2011 10:09 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 16468167)
:confused:

Surely that depends on your travel profile?

:td:And who is paying for the ticket - you or business/work?!

Dave Noble May 29, 2011 10:59 am


Originally Posted by Budley (Post 16468852)
Agree 100%

I'm EK Gold til Nov 12, but frankly I probably won't make any further bookings with them. Double cost to achieve Gold in the future, no spouse entry to lounges, poor award availability, squashy Y class cabins, etc, etc.

I'm also (lifetime) Gold with Star Alliance and One World, so why would I waste any further money with EK. I have no need to ever go to Dubai, and I don't even like the place.

As I'm spending my own money on my tix, I'll be directing it towards airlines that don't treat their Golds as brainless morons.

Let's hope that EK can fill all their new A380's with gullible travellers, because they will need to.

I disagree. I think that Emirates's 1st class suite product is right at the top of the quality of airlines so given the quality and that their schedule works nicely, I would have no reason to change.

I did a flight on the 380 on sunday in business class and thought that that was a really good business class

I think that quality and schedule trumps miles and there is nothing brainless about choosing them.

Dave

DYKWIA May 29, 2011 2:33 pm


Originally Posted by Budley (Post 16468852)
I'm EK Gold til Nov 12, but frankly I probably won't make any further bookings with them.

You must have posted this at least a dozen times...

Have you made your feelings known to Emirates? If enough people complain, then maybe things will change.

Constantly complaining on a website won't really change anything.

Many people (myself included) think Emirates hard and soft product is great (except may be A330/A340). They are miles ahead of the likes of BA/QF and all the US airlines.

Cheers,
Rick

afhstingray May 29, 2011 9:34 pm

sadly, this is probably the last time i'll have status with emirates since with the new fares to get a decent amount of miles i have to pay considerably more. however, i'll still be flying them as my options to london gatwick are limited :(

because of where i live heathrow is just too much hassle

Budley May 29, 2011 10:54 pm


Originally Posted by DYKWIA (Post 16470004)
You must have posted this at least a dozen times...

Have you made your feelings known to Emirates? If enough people complain, then maybe things will change.

Constantly complaining on a website won't really change anything.

Many people (myself included) think Emirates hard and soft product is great (except may be A330/A340). They are miles ahead of the likes of BA/QF and all the US airlines.

Cheers,
Rick

Hi Rick,

Nice to hear from you.

Yes, I guess I have complained here rather a lot, but that's just an indication of my frustration with EK. Point taken and I'll try and curb it. As for complaining to EK generally, clearly it won't have any effect other than getting me a black mark on their computer system, So why bother?

As for hard/soft products, as I mainly live in Australia (I'm a dual UK/Aus citizen) I can avail myself of a range of better airlines such as SQ, TG, QF, CX, etc, etc, so I don't need EK at all, particularly as I have absolutely no need or desire to go to DXB. I agree with your comments re BA and the US airlines (I am a UA 2 million miler, so I do have a little experience).

When I reached EK Gold last year, almost by accident, I had a closer look at them and thought they could become one of my preferred carriers. Since then, there have been so many negative changes, they are now off my Christmas card list.

Sorry to have bothered you; have a nice day and goodbye.

But just before I go, Rick, I reckon I've worked out who you are. A travel agent (you appear to have no status of note anywhere). Let me know if I'm wrong.

:)

eightblack Jun 1, 2011 4:31 am

This is interesting. The poll has been running for 4-days - with 46 people voting.

  • 60% of respondents said that they would retain or reach Gold
  • 20% of respondents said that they would retain or reach Silver
  • 20% of respondents said that they would not retain status at all.

Because I am not a mathematician or statistics guru, or versed in the Gallop Poll methodology, does our small statistical sample indicate that we could assume that the "elite" numbers over the next 12+ months will gradually reduce by an overall 20%?

mecabq Jun 1, 2011 4:40 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 16468167)
:confused:

Surely that depends on your travel profile?

Obviously it depends on one's travel profile. I am based in the Gulf with a fair amount of business and personal travel. But, compared with other airlines, the top tier takes relatively fewer miles.

And the rolling calendar makes it easier to manage when one is trying to achieve status on multiple carriers simultaneously. (At least, it made it easier for me to initially qualify for Gold, although it's probably more of a disadvantage in subsequent years.)


Originally Posted by Brussels traveller (Post 16467804)
I am surprised that the e-card is a strong incentive. You do know that anyone eligible can get one for a small fee - don't you?

No, I did not know that. I looked into it (briefly) and didn't see a way that non-UAE residents could obtain it. Thanks for the information.

Edited to add: Brussels traveller, are you sure about that? According to the Dubai government web page, only UAE residents are normally allowed to receive it. A thread elsewhere on the Emirates Forum suggests also that they discontinued issuing e-gates to non-residents.

afhstingray Jun 1, 2011 6:49 pm


Originally Posted by eightblack (Post 16483002)
This is interesting. The poll has been running for 4-days - with 46 people voting.

  • 60% of respondents said that they would retain or reach Gold
  • 20% of respondents said that they would retain or reach Silver
  • 20% of respondents said that they would not retain status at all.

Because I am not a mathematician or statistics guru, or versed in the Gallop Poll methodology, does our small statistical sample indicate that we could assume that the "elite" numbers over the next 12+ months will gradually reduce by an overall 20%?

i would thing the number would be higher than 20% as this is not a representative sample, seeing that we're all enthusiasts here


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