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B747-437B Mar 18, 2011 12:30 am

Another data point about Golds.

172 Golds on Guangzhou - Dubai last week. Absolute chaos at check-in and in the lounge. The SFS said that this was the second highest number of Golds he had seen on a flight - he once did a Lagos with over 200 Golds.

In contrast, Dubai - Beijing the previous week had only 5 Golds.

askari Mar 20, 2011 7:46 am


Originally Posted by Gorilaz (Post 14705518)
Me 5'11" OK on the hair front but mostly greyish (OK I lie all grey) usually shorts or jeans, pair of Vans, T- shirt, i-pod with the feet tapping away (i am probably worse at dancing than DTB), time is to valuable in the lounge so likewise the last one on. Same Tumi carry on and laptop, they looks as old as i feel. Likewise with the friendship stakes and learned never to arrive DBX 2 sheets to the wind and try to clear immigration without e-gate. You see a reall X section of Golds that it is impossible to judge. Do I look as though I travel in F, well to be honest no.

6'5'', short blond clipped hair, shirt and pants mostly. The occasional combat boot and Arabic language skills makes them think military contractor, I guess.

JTXC Mar 30, 2011 9:15 pm

I had great success last year receiving upgrades from Y to J: once DXB-SYD, and then DXB-YYZ. I had just achieved silver at the time, and was doing a massive itinerary. I decided to thank Emirates by buying J this time, so here's hoping an upgrade J to F is coming my way between YYZ-DXB.

vishruts Apr 1, 2011 2:37 pm

got up from ZRH TO DXB.
 
on EK 86 GOT OP-UP from zrh to dxb.... got upgrade after a long time but i suppose now the vacation season started in asia but it was worth the money.. love EK buznes..:D

B747-437B May 15, 2011 1:24 pm

Another data point from this week.

137 Golds in Y on DXB-ACC-ABJ (out of 213 pax).

GigoloArt May 15, 2011 2:41 pm


Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 16390303)
Another data point from this week.

137 Golds in Y on DXB-ACC-ABJ (out of 213 pax).

People will now claim it is an exception, I do not:

This is the best example why EK needs a fourth tier. How would you differentiate your high value customers (no, not the IOs) in this environment?

And don't tell me that even then the flight will see at least a quarter with Platinums (or whatsoever it will be called), I am sure the threshold will be set wisely.

Dave Noble May 15, 2011 3:43 pm


Originally Posted by GigoloArt (Post 16390689)

This is the best example why EK needs a fourth tier. How would you differentiate your high value customers (no, not the IOs) in this environment?.

They can keep a track of how much money has been spent by a person to determine if they want to keep that person sweet. It does not need a new shiny card for the airline to do that.

If believing some of the claims on another thread, there will be less golds due to the alleged increase in saver fares and the lower earnings that savers deliver.

GigoloArt May 16, 2011 3:32 am


Originally Posted by Dave Noble (Post 16390963)
They can keep a track of how much money has been spent by a person to determine if they want to keep that person sweet. It does not need a new shiny card for the airline to do that.
.

But Dave, doing it in the way you suggest might be suitable for a program like IO where you can pamper on individual basis but this is certainly not scalable for at least thousands of a potential new tier member. I don't care about the card but about the differentiated and systematically given customer experience.

How would you be able to do this on a very large scale by tracking "by a person"?

torontoflyer May 16, 2011 3:59 am


Originally Posted by Dave Noble (Post 16390963)
If believing some of the claims on another thread, there will be less golds due to the alleged increase in saver fares and the lower earnings that savers deliver.

+1

eightblack May 16, 2011 4:17 am


Originally Posted by GigoloArt (Post 16393387)
How would you be able to do this on a very large scale by tracking "by a person"?

Actually, it's not that hard. EK own an IT business called Mercator. While I don't know the total capabilities of the business or IT solutions on offer, a component of their platform is a CRM and loyalty management product.
http://www.mercator.com/solutions/CRM/CRM.aspx

To achieve "scale" all the business needs to do is to create another set of "rules" or parameters which its current system follows. For example, people who achieve 100,000 tier miles within 12-months, people who fly 4+ F sectors in a month, they can identify top 20 customers by route, by country, by spend etc etc.

The challenge is getting the human component right - ie delivering on the benefits. Or having the resources to deliver these benefits.

EK already have a Top 50 customer list by country/airport - which every EK station has access to.

Whatever we may think of UA, I can assure you they have this side of the business sorted out. Program has 3 standard tiers (Premier, Premier Exec and 1K), Invitation Only equivalent (Global Services), plus incentives and recognition for 1MM, 2MM and 3MM. They track spend on a membership base which is 5 times the size of EK's.

EK could easily do this - if they put their minds to it and had the right people (in terms of resource not just competence).

B747-437B May 16, 2011 4:21 am


Originally Posted by eightblack (Post 16393475)
EK could easily do this - if they put their minds to it and had the right people (in terms of resource not just competence).

They can do it already. I have been evaluating the Mercator CRM and CASA product for my employer over the last few months and am very impressed by the functionality it can provide (if deployed properly). Tracking by revenue spend on base fares (but not ancillary spending) is already available as a function.

GHJ74 May 16, 2011 4:56 am


Originally Posted by B747-437B (Post 16393478)
They can do it already. I have been evaluating the Mercator CRM and CASA product for my employer over the last few months and am very impressed by the functionality it can provide (if deployed properly). Tracking by revenue spend on base fares (but not ancillary spending) is already available as a function.

Don't ever purchase off Mercator. Their service following a sale can only be described as awful. This is from experience...

B747-437B May 16, 2011 4:58 am


Originally Posted by GHJ74 (Post 16393556)
Don't ever purchase off Mercator. Their service following a sale can only be described as awful. This is from experience...

We decided on another vendor's system instead, partly due to similar feedback from other Mercator customers. We are still looking at Mercator for bureau outsourcing solutions though.

ft101 May 16, 2011 5:16 am


Originally Posted by GigoloArt (Post 16390689)
People will now claim it is an exception.....

Of course it is the exception. EK operates around 2,500 flights per week and Accra is one of the few that these stats come up from on a regular basis.

B747-437B May 16, 2011 5:52 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 16393605)
Of course it is the exception. EK operates around 2,500 flights per week and Accra is one of the few that these stats come up from on a regular basis.

Agreed.

I also flew IST-DXB last week and I was the ONLY Gold in Y class out of 158 passengers on a 2-class 772.


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