Fired Irish Emirates FA in South Africa
#46
Join Date: Apr 2010
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May i also point out that Liz the girl in question had been visiting the Emirates medical clinic for many months where she was told she had a stomach ulcer .This together with the symptoms that we experience as cabin crew , sickness tiredness nausea and feeling generally out of sorts all contributed , the baby was a kilo when born not the size of a normal six month old baby .
Ask you r wife if this is possible ?
The situation is clearly not black and white , things are possible .
Much love x
Ask you r wife if this is possible ?
The situation is clearly not black and white , things are possible .
Much love x
#47
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 9
[QUOTE=roadrunner21;13744682]
Post a pic of the healthy baby and mother along with the name of the hospital and trust me, the general sentiment of this thread would change.
While most people on forums such as this are creeps ( including myself ) am confident that some would help out if you can convince them.
Really sorry Roadrunner .
I wrote too quick and misspelt ! ooops
The correct spelling is Alexandra Johanna.
Sorry
Ps it said you sent me a personal message but it has been blocked
Thankx
Post a pic of the healthy baby and mother along with the name of the hospital and trust me, the general sentiment of this thread would change.
While most people on forums such as this are creeps ( including myself ) am confident that some would help out if you can convince them.
Really sorry Roadrunner .
I wrote too quick and misspelt ! ooops
The correct spelling is Alexandra Johanna.
Sorry
Ps it said you sent me a personal message but it has been blocked
Thankx
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#49
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HaHa.
People do what they have to/ need to to get somewhere. There aren't always a lot of choices for them. That doesn't make it ok for another party to exploit their situation. Now we could say that investment bankers working 16 hrs a day are also exploited, and we could say that EK cabin crew not given comprehensive medical insurance are being exploited. I'm not trying to take sides or even compare those two instances, just pointing out that things aren't so cut and dry.
And, the UAE wouldn't be where it is today without all the expats who built it. Yes, it gave them something in return, and that's why they are there, but it's not as simple as leave if you don't like it.
People do what they have to/ need to to get somewhere. There aren't always a lot of choices for them. That doesn't make it ok for another party to exploit their situation. Now we could say that investment bankers working 16 hrs a day are also exploited, and we could say that EK cabin crew not given comprehensive medical insurance are being exploited. I'm not trying to take sides or even compare those two instances, just pointing out that things aren't so cut and dry.
And, the UAE wouldn't be where it is today without all the expats who built it. Yes, it gave them something in return, and that's why they are there, but it's not as simple as leave if you don't like it.
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#50
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Completely agree with you Ung1. And for many the alternative to not staying in the UAE is a lot worse. Many do not have the luxury of choice.
#51
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Originally Posted by suzie wong
I dont know what evidence you want...
Originally Posted by roadrunner21
The discussion is about the moral/social responsibility of the corporation, not the country its based in. It just happens that EK is based in the UAE where employment contracts and regulations are 'different'.
My employment contract is a good 50+ pages and covers eighteen jurisdictions but is governed by one ( non sandpit ). Despite the legalese in the contract one clause stands out. No matter what happens,(short of committing a felony in any jurisdiction, as recognized by X law; X=a particular nation), my employer will evacuate me to the "primary jurisdiction" then if needed let me go, sue me, do whatever they deem fit, as long as they got my sorry A$$ out of wherever to "where I signed the god almighty fornicating contract".
My employment contract is a good 50+ pages and covers eighteen jurisdictions but is governed by one ( non sandpit ). Despite the legalese in the contract one clause stands out. No matter what happens,(short of committing a felony in any jurisdiction, as recognized by X law; X=a particular nation), my employer will evacuate me to the "primary jurisdiction" then if needed let me go, sue me, do whatever they deem fit, as long as they got my sorry A$$ out of wherever to "where I signed the god almighty fornicating contract".
#53
Join Date: Apr 2010
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HaHa.
People do what they have to/ need to to get somewhere. There aren't always a lot of choices for them. That doesn't make it ok for another party to exploit their situation. Now we could say that investment bankers working 16 hrs a day are also exploited, and we could say that EK cabin crew not given comprehensive medical insurance are being exploited. I'm not trying to take sides or even compare those two instances, just pointing out that things aren't so cut and dry.
And, the UAE wouldn't be where it is today without all the expats who built it. Yes, it gave them something in return, and that's why they are there, but it's not as simple as leave if you don't like it.
People do what they have to/ need to to get somewhere. There aren't always a lot of choices for them. That doesn't make it ok for another party to exploit their situation. Now we could say that investment bankers working 16 hrs a day are also exploited, and we could say that EK cabin crew not given comprehensive medical insurance are being exploited. I'm not trying to take sides or even compare those two instances, just pointing out that things aren't so cut and dry.
And, the UAE wouldn't be where it is today without all the expats who built it. Yes, it gave them something in return, and that's why they are there, but it's not as simple as leave if you don't like it.
Thank you Ung1
Its nice to see someone with compassion .
Its true we are all here cause it offers us better for ourselves and to have a more comfortable life but there are things that some people will never understand unless in the situation.
A lot of people who built dubai those amazing places you see if only you knew the lives they live .
Because of where im from and with other people from "lesser " class countries there is a huge gap in the quality of life .
What you see and what goes on here are totally different and its not only the people from this country .
I ve known many local people and have a lot of respect for the things the leader s of this country are doing .
It s just the injustice people come across and it s not all from the country its the companies within here that have the power and yes as a guest you can either live with it or leave .
As far as this subject we are all talking about , we are trying to get across the message of the humane side of it .
This is an isolated case and not each and every person who works in that job experiences it , we are only talking about the case of pregnancy and being un married .
Most of what i say is directed to the others out there who keep picking at this , as i said i just wanted to share information with those who are interested.
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#54
Join Date: Apr 2010
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OMG
We all know about contracts bla bla bla .
I do not wish to reply to you anymore , as you dont seem to get what was being talked about .
I wish you all the luck in the world .
And behalf of all those people who are not as lucky as you in life and dont have the power or options Or voice or love and support that EVERY HUMAN BEING should be respected with we would like to wish you peace .
Bye xxxxxxxxxxxxx
We all know about contracts bla bla bla .
I do not wish to reply to you anymore , as you dont seem to get what was being talked about .
I wish you all the luck in the world .
And behalf of all those people who are not as lucky as you in life and dont have the power or options Or voice or love and support that EVERY HUMAN BEING should be respected with we would like to wish you peace .
Bye xxxxxxxxxxxxx
#56
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ekfb pointed out that their mail boxes contain flyers collecting money for the mother. The only other evidence I can think of would involve photos taken from the inside of her falopian tube.
Based on the information provided by ekfb, I shall downgrade my earlier pronouncement of this story from "Cobblers" to "borderline bollocks". Further evidence will result in a complete and unreserved retraction.
Based on the information provided by ekfb, I shall downgrade my earlier pronouncement of this story from "Cobblers" to "borderline bollocks". Further evidence will result in a complete and unreserved retraction.
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I think you should have to accepted apologizes to EK management for what you done something wrong during the flight to South Africa. You have to write the letter to EK CEO will have give your opportunity for you. You will have try to do something else where you work another airlines in the future. So unfortunately, I cannot accepted for your behaviors at work and you will not try to take the advantage of your work at EK.