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apirchik Jul 27, 2009 12:22 pm

Warning - possible LY strike soon
 
The Histadrut (the central union in Israel) have started a process that will allow them to start strikes at LY starting 2 weeks from today.

Here is an article about it in Hebrew.

sds1493 Jul 27, 2009 3:53 pm

Hope not.
This being my first potential strike situation, what is the protocol for pax ticketed to fly? Do LY endorse onto another airline?
Would (Amex) Travel Insurance cover it?
Hope these questions won't need to be answered.

clubman Jul 27, 2009 4:11 pm


Originally Posted by sds1493 (Post 12131171)
Hope these questions won't need to be answered.

Ok then, we won't answer them... ;)

CO FF Jul 27, 2009 7:09 pm

So based on past strikes, if strikes may start on Monday 10 August, will LY fly its international flights ex-TLV on Sunday 9 August?

(I'm concerned about European destinations, not the after-midnight flights to the US/Toronto.)

thx.

apirchik Jul 28, 2009 1:36 am


Originally Posted by CO FF (Post 12132082)
So based on past strikes, if strikes may start on Monday 10 August, will LY fly its international flights ex-TLV on Sunday 9 August?

LY hasn't been on strike by itself for many years. Previous strikes in recent years were at the airport and not at the airline.


Originally Posted by sds1493 (Post 12131171)
what is the protocol for pax ticketed to fly? Do LY endorse onto another airline?
Would (Amex) Travel Insurance cover it?



The protocol is that you should get the next available seat on a flight that will go out but as strikes create backlogs (especially in the high season of mid-August), the next available seat can be quite a few days later.
Strikes are considered "Force Major" and insurance usually does not cover them.

sds1493 Jul 28, 2009 4:01 am


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 12131285)
Ok then, we won't answer them... ;)

:mad::mad::mad::p



Originally Posted by apirchik (Post 12133428)
LY hasn't been on strike by itself for many years. Previous strikes in recent years were at the airport and not at the airline.
The protocol is that you should get the next available seat on a flight that will go out but as strikes create backlogs (especially in the high season of mid-August), the next available seat can be quite a few days later.
Strikes are considered "Force Major" and insurance usually does not cover them.

I presume you mean 'force majeure'. Looking closer, Amex seem to say that they will reimburse up to 7,500 GBP for cancellation of a trip. They will also pay 150 GBP for a delay of > 4 hours.
There don't seem to be any exclusions.
I won't worry to much until more details are known.

ELAL Jul 28, 2009 9:54 am

According to this YNET article today (in Hebrew)http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3753602,00.html, Things are seeming to heat up

Chaim Romano told Yossi Levi (head of the workers union), that the company has to reduce costs by 35 million dollars.
Levi is insisting to restrict manager payments

Who knows where things are leading!

apirchik Jul 29, 2009 3:48 am


Originally Posted by ELAL (Post 12135264)
... Things are seeming to heat up...

This is how unions negotiate in Israel ... :)

BTW, the union has some good points in their demands - especially about cutting the salaries of LY executives when asking to do the same on the lower levels.

damaxer91 Aug 3, 2009 9:27 pm

Any update? I'm scheduled for HKG-TLV on the 10th

apirchik Aug 4, 2009 7:24 am

The process that would lead to a strike has been halted today and the 2 sides will start formal negotiations. Your flights should operate normally.

Here is an article about this (in Hebrew)

damaxer91 Aug 5, 2009 4:17 am


Originally Posted by apirchik (Post 12172147)
The process that would lead to a strike has been halted today and the 2 sides will start formal negotiations. Your flights should operate normally.

Here is an article about this (in Hebrew)

Good. For a change the geniuses realized that a strike during the busiest month of the year wouldnt exactly be smart

yosithezet Aug 5, 2009 6:50 am


Originally Posted by damaxer91 (Post 12177618)
Good. For a change the geniuses realized that a strike during the busiest month of the year wouldnt exactly be smart

For a change? When is the last time LY was on strike?

ELAL Aug 5, 2009 4:16 pm


Originally Posted by yosithezet (Post 12177982)
For a change? When is the last time LY was on strike?


That's right, it's always the airport on strike not ELAL

apirchik Aug 6, 2009 12:08 am


Originally Posted by ELAL (Post 12181033)
That's right, it's always the airport on strike not ELAL

Actually, the recent strikes were by the general Histadrut and included both the airport and El Al. El Al was not on strike by itself for many years.

ebzed Aug 6, 2009 5:47 pm


Originally Posted by apirchik (Post 12133428)
The protocol is that you should get the next available seat on a flight that will go out but as strikes create backlogs (especially in the high season of mid-August), the next available seat can be quite a few days later.
Strikes are considered "Force Major" and insurance usually does not cover them.

Last time there was a strike related to EL-AL and i was in spain, i was
redirected to the first availble flight of Iberia, Someone from EL-AL waited
to me in the airport with the ticket (i was at madrid).

If you are in israel, and they know the strike is tomorrow, they will try
to fly you before the strike starts (making your flight earlier)


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