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Jakebeth Jul 18, 2006 9:07 pm

Foreign crews going home @ nite / insurance could stop routes
 
From ynetnews.com:

http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/Art...278028,00.html

Foreign airlines flying away

Lufthansa, Austrian Airlines crews choose not to stay in Tel Aviv, but to take off immediately after landing

Aryeh Egozy

Foreign airlines are preparing for a possibility of changing the frequency of their flights to and from Israel, in case of an escalation in the north. Two foreign airlines which operate regular flights to Israel already announced that their crews will not be spending the night in Tel Aviv after their flights.

Lufthansa and Austrian Airlines crew members, including pilots and flight attendants, will return abroad shortly after landing and will not stay in Tel Aviv hotels. At this point, the airlines have not canceled their flights to Israel.

...snip...

"If a missile hits the center of Israel, there is no doubt that some of the airlines will stop flying here," a source that attended the meeting said Monday.

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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects...?itemNo=739946

Haaretz.com

Last update - 02:20 19/07/2006

Foreign airlines could stop Israel flights if insurance premiums rise

By Zohar Blumenkrantz, Haaretz Correspondent

Foreign airlines could be forced to reduce their scheduled flights to and from Israel, or suspend operations here entirely, if their insurance premiums go up due to the fighting in the North, according to the local head of a foreign carrier who spoke to TheMarker on Tuesday.

The source who wished to remain anonymous said that at an emergency meeting held this week with Tourism Minister Isaac Herzog, he and his colleagues asked the government to apply pressure on international insurers to keep the carriers' passenger and aircraft insurance premiums from rising as a result of the new security situation.

The executive added that Herzog instructed the representatives of foreign carriers to explain to their home countries that despite the missile strikes in the North, many of the country's tourist sites are operating as usual.

A senior Transportation Ministry official expressed concern about the "serious consequences" for air transportation to and from Israel as a result of continued fighting in Lebanon. He said he was worried about the drop in the number of incoming tourists, but said that the war will have less effect on travel abroad by Israelis.

...snip... [similar to ynet story]

mordey Jul 18, 2006 9:46 pm

Where are the airlines going to take their crew to.
Back to Europe, i dont think it is feasable.
It is such a schlep!

entropy Jul 18, 2006 11:20 pm

stopping in LCA!

Purserette Jul 19, 2006 2:57 am


Originally Posted by entropy
as expected the europeans have no balls.

Well, I joined for the glamour, not to fly into war zones!! :eek:

FWIW, BA crews did there and back TLVs in the not so distant past. Nightstopping in LCA is also an option, but at the moment, my friend still has a TLV nightsop on her roster. :(

clubman Jul 19, 2006 3:19 am


Originally Posted by Jakebeth
...snip...
"If a missile hits the center of Israel, there is no doubt that some of the airlines will stop flying here," a source that attended the meeting said Monday.

I think this goes without saying.
If missiles start flying over Central Israel, I don't think any planes will be taking off from TLV including LY's.

apirchik Jul 19, 2006 3:44 am


Originally Posted by clubman
I think this goes without saying.
If missiles start flying over Central Israel, I don't think any planes will be taking off from TLV including LY's.

Airlines were still flying in and out of TLV during the gulf war when missiles hit central Israel. Some stopped, some kept flying.

ly787 Jul 19, 2006 4:03 am

LY will definetly be flying.
They have never stopped flying in any war.

clubman Jul 19, 2006 4:49 am


Originally Posted by apirchik
Airlines were still flying in and out of TLV during the gulf war when missiles hit central Israel. Some stopped, some kept flying.


Originally Posted by ly787
LY will definetly be flying.
They have never stopped flying in any war.

Yes, I guess you guys are right, although its a scary thought planes taking of and landing with the risk of a missile hitting them while airborne.

apirchik Jul 19, 2006 5:56 am


Originally Posted by clubman
Yes, I guess you guys are right, although its a scary thought planes taking of and landing with the risk of a missile hitting them while airborne.

You have better chances to win the lottery than for this to happen.

apirchik Jul 19, 2006 6:07 am

http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3277894,00.html (in Hebrew)

AF send their 2220/2221 to LCA to spend the night there and flight 2221 leaves from TLV at 9AM instead of 8:15. flight 1621 from TLV departs on time but stops in LCA.
LX changed the departure time of flight 256 from ZRH to midnight instead of 10:30PM in order to minimize the working time of the crew that does the roundtrip. LH and OS do the roundtrip of all their flights with the same crew.
BA, DL and CO did not change anything and their crews still sleep in Tel Aviv.

KL 461 stops in LCA enroute to TLV. Flight 462 goes direct from TLV to AMS on schedule.

clubman Jul 19, 2006 6:09 am


Originally Posted by apirchik
You have better chances to win the lottery than for this to happen.

I think I would prefer to win the lottery... :D

entropy Jul 19, 2006 11:29 am


Well, I joined for the glamour, not to fly into war zones!!
Tel Aviv is not a war zone.

Jakebeth Jul 19, 2006 12:07 pm


Originally Posted by Purserette
Well, I joined for the glamour...

Has it met your expectations? :D

salut0 Jul 19, 2006 12:57 pm


Originally Posted by entropy
eh.. less ????'??? flight attendants taking up cute Israeli guys at the clubs :)

as expected the europeans have no balls.

What was the Hebrew word you quoted? Not sure if it came out right on my end -- I have a Mac and it may be backwards. In any case, I didn't understand it... alef vav het tsade chupchik vav alef yud means what?

entropy Jul 19, 2006 8:12 pm

no, that was correct.
אוחצ'אי is the adjective of אוחצ'ה.
its a derivative of "sister"....


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