Anyone know what happening with unions?
May 5, 2022, 5:30 pm
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Anyone know what happening with unions?
May 27, 2022, 4:45 pm
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May 28, 2022, 5:19 pm
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They detailed what they claim are their wages: “We earn half of what every pilot in the Western world gets, about $138 an hour. You will not find a pilot in Europe or North America who earns less than $250 per hour on a 787 plane. In companies like United Airlines, Delta Airlines and American Airlines, it is $380 per hour.”
Does anyone know if this is true? My guess is that it might be technically correct if you compare only base salary, but some other compensation items that the pilots get may more than make up for the difference.
May 28, 2022, 9:55 pm
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They detailed what they claim are their wages: “We earn half of what every pilot in the Western world gets, about $138 an hour. You will not find a pilot in Europe or North America who earns less than $250 per hour on a 787 plane. In companies like United Airlines, Delta Airlines and American Airlines, it is $380 per hour.”
Does anyone know if this is true? My guess is that it might be technically correct if you compare only base salary, but some other compensation items that the pilots get may more than make up for the difference.
They detailed what they claim are their wages: “We earn half of what every pilot in the Western world gets, about $138 an hour. You will not find a pilot in Europe or North America who earns less than $250 per hour on a 787 plane. In companies like United Airlines, Delta Airlines and American Airlines, it is $380 per hour.”
Does anyone know if this is true? My guess is that it might be technically correct if you compare only base salary, but some other compensation items that the pilots get may more than make up for the difference.
seems to be technically true.
but why is this an issue now?
May 29, 2022, 2:40 am
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https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/legacy
According to this, for a United 787 pilot - Year 1 salary is $323 an hour, and goes up to Year 12 at $352 an hour. Plus additional $6.50 for international flights. So lets say a salary range of $330-$360 per hour at united. Plus an hourly per diem of $3/hr for international flights. Delta and American airlines pay scales are lower.
I suspect however that there are other factors in the El Al pilots pay packages that make up a lot of the difference with what United pilots get.
And also who says that the El Al pay scale should be compared to the big-3 american legacy carriers.
This article for example https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/el...r-month-637414 says that El Al pilots in 2019 earned on average 95000 Shekels per month - thats $350k a year and significantly more than the United yearly salary based on 70 hours a month flying time from this link https://www.aviationinterviews.com/p...61.html?page=2. Some El Al pilots earned between 110000 to 160000 a month which is closer to $400-500k a year.
According to this, for a United 787 pilot - Year 1 salary is $323 an hour, and goes up to Year 12 at $352 an hour. Plus additional $6.50 for international flights. So lets say a salary range of $330-$360 per hour at united. Plus an hourly per diem of $3/hr for international flights. Delta and American airlines pay scales are lower.
I suspect however that there are other factors in the El Al pilots pay packages that make up a lot of the difference with what United pilots get.
And also who says that the El Al pay scale should be compared to the big-3 american legacy carriers.
This article for example https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/el...r-month-637414 says that El Al pilots in 2019 earned on average 95000 Shekels per month - thats $350k a year and significantly more than the United yearly salary based on 70 hours a month flying time from this link https://www.aviationinterviews.com/p...61.html?page=2. Some El Al pilots earned between 110000 to 160000 a month which is closer to $400-500k a year.