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N830MH Dec 10, 2018 8:09 am
LY announces TLV-LAS
 
El Al announces Tel Aviv to Las Vegas nonstop. Effective on June 14, 2019. Only once-weekly service.

https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-e...hts-1001264150

LY777 Dec 10, 2018 9:29 am
Is that a joke?
how will this be viable ?

entropy Dec 10, 2018 9:49 am
Maybe sheldon asked for it... presumably they'd be filling it with package deals, doesn't seem great.

Yoshi212 Dec 10, 2018 9:49 am
It'll be a codeshare on Adelson's Sand's Casino 747SP ;)

/Sarcasm.

It's going to be a rough route to make work.

Originally Posted by LY777 (Post 30518913)
Is that a joke?
how will this be viable ?

nombody Dec 10, 2018 10:54 am
Bachelor parties and convention travel? My guess is they cancel it after they collect their 250K prize money from the tourism ministry.

Dm84 Dec 10, 2018 11:30 am
Originally Posted by LY777 (Post 30518913)
Is that a joke?
how will this be viable ?
Actually works out well. Parachute in for 24 hours of gambling (or god knows what else) and then sleep it off on the flight home. lol.

clubman Dec 10, 2018 9:22 pm
Shabbat in Vegas for the crew.! What could possibly go wrong...

Houminer Dec 11, 2018 3:24 am
Originally Posted by clubman (Post 30521427)
Shabbat in Vegas for the crew.! What could possibly go wrong...
I guess that the crew will not stay for the whole week. They will dead-head to LAX/SFO

Dovster Dec 11, 2018 7:55 am
One night in Vegas is not worth a 14 hr trip. Two weeks there would mean bankruptcy. One week, however, could be very workable.

nombody Dec 11, 2018 2:33 pm
Originally Posted by Houminer (Post 30522129)
I guess that the crew will not stay for the whole week. They will dead-head to LAX/SFO
So this may be where El Al's labor agreements really hurt. Since the rules require a minimum 48 hour crew rest period after a long flight like this (at least for the pilots), I have a feeling that the return pilots will deadhead to LAS in business class on the way from Israel. So minus two or three business class seats for every flight?

N830MH Dec 11, 2018 4:09 pm
Originally Posted by clubman (Post 30521427)
Shabbat in Vegas for the crew.! What could possibly go wrong...
No, they will departed flight at 7am from TLV and will arrived in LAS at 11:15am by Friday morning. Return flight on Saturday night at 11:45pm from LAS and will arrived back to TLV at 10:15pm for next day. The entire flight crew will required to remain in ground for 36 hours.

clubman Dec 11, 2018 11:29 pm
Originally Posted by Houminer (Post 30522129)
I guess that the crew will not stay for the whole week. They will dead-head to LAX/SFO
They don't have to. They can do the return on Saturday night, unless the 48 hour requirement includes cabin crew which I don't think it does.

nombody Dec 12, 2018 1:47 am
Originally Posted by clubman (Post 30525867)
They don't have to. They can do the return on Saturday night, unless the 48 hour requirement includes cabin crew which I don't think it does.
And when the inbound flight to LAS is delayed by 3 hours what's going to happen Saturday night when the crew did not get their 36 hour rest period? This sounds like labor trouble waiting to happen for El Al.

Anyone have the exact rest requirements between flights for El Al cabin crew and Pilots?

ly787 Dec 12, 2018 7:34 am
Originally Posted by Houminer (Post 30522129)
I guess that the crew will not stay for the whole week. They will dead-head to LAX/SFO
this is possibly right

as a former flight attendant ( 18 years ago) this makes most sense
we used to operate to ORD or YYZ and return from NYC (and vice versa) all the time

tedcruz Dec 12, 2018 4:22 pm
Anyone thinking of going on the inaugural service?


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