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Ministry of Foreign Affairs cuts funding for security personnel

Old Nov 10, 18, 2:58 pm
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Ministry of Foreign Affairs cuts funding for security personnel

Just seen an article saying that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is to stop providing funds for security personnel on EL AL flights from January.
The EL AL security is set by guidlines from the Israeli Security Agency. The security personnel also happen to be emplyees of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The ministry will no longer pay the salaries of the security workers passing the bill to EL AL.
EL AL is already going through cuts and is trying to balance its books and this is not really good news. Some people say that EL AL don't need all the security on board as they have enough of it on the ground. Whats's your opinon, should EL AL get rid of on-board security, pick up the bills or cut the amount of personnel on board?
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Old Nov 10, 18, 7:52 pm
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I think loudly stating that El Al will not have the same level.of security is ridiculous. Certain things are not meant to be share.
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Old Nov 11, 18, 2:24 am
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This is a long standing argument about who employs and pays for ground staff doing security at airports for LY flights to Israel. Currently they are employed by the foreign ministry, and paid from that budget. The transport ministry is refusing to take these employees on. Nothing to do with in-flight security, and nothing secret - it is is in all the papers.
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Old Nov 30, 18, 9:35 am
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Im gonna go on a limb here and say that it will be probably lead to longer wait times for passengers for security lines as part of the pre-check in both directions (inbound and outbound) flights.
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Old Jan 3, 19, 4:08 am
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https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-a...nes-1001267565

As in previous years this has been resolved, though it went right up to the wire. Fundamentally though someone needs to think long term about where the funding for Israeli airline security should come from and make it a permanent budget item, instead of this annual negotiation between the finance ministry and foreign ministry over budgets. Obviously that's not happening in the current election season though.
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Old Jan 6, 19, 1:49 am
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Originally Posted by nombody View Post
https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-a...nes-1001267565

As in previous years this has been resolved, though it went right up to the wire. Fundamentally though someone needs to think long term about where the funding for Israeli airline security should come from and make it a permanent budget item, instead of this annual negotiation between the finance ministry and foreign ministry over budgets. Obviously that's not happening in the current election season though.
Loathe as I am to just say that the government should be spending more and more money, this is a simple one - if the security requirements are set by the government AND fall on all Israeli airlines, not just LY, then the government should be covering it. Practically, that's the Foreign Ministry as they are responsible for overseas activity, even if it ends up being a pass-through to the Defense Ministry or PMO.
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Old Jan 7, 19, 1:45 am
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Originally Posted by joshwex90 View Post
Loathe as I am to just say that the government should be spending more and more money, this is a simple one - if the security requirements are set by the government AND fall on all Israeli airlines, not just LY, then the government should be covering it. Practically, that's the Foreign Ministry as they are responsible for overseas activity, even if it ends up being a pass-through to the Defense Ministry or PMO.
This happens in every gov't ministry. If the Ministry of Communications comes out with a new regulation for data retention, or blocking pornography to minors, the cost of implementing it falls on the Internet Service Providers, which are free to add another few agurot to the end consumer bill - all with the backing of the Ministry. Same holds true for new building regulations or restaurant regulations. The Israeli gov't loves to add new regulations without thought of the implied cost. No ministry will subsidize building companies, or restaurants or ISPs.

Same too here. If the gov't edicts certain security regulations, it is assumed that the company has to handle the burden of the cost. I don't necessarily agree with it but that is how Israeli regulations have been managed for the past 25 years.
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Old Jan 7, 19, 2:14 am
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Not quite the same. It would be more similar if the Communications Ministry made some regulation and then told Bezeq that they are responsible for paying for it for themselves as well as for Triple C, 018, and Hot.

Even that isn't the same as the security regulation is quite different than with other industries. Your example of communications is common even outside Israel. When it comes to aviation security, not so normal for the country to place the financial burden on the airline. Further, many security regulations in Israel that are made by the Defense Ministry end up being on the expense of the IDF, not the individual community or company.
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