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Old Mar 22, 2018, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by TPJ
Over Oman now, very close to Saudi border
FlightRadar24 has adjusted the expected route of Air India 139 to Tel Aviv, showing that it may cross much of the breadth of Saudi Arabia while *avoiding* Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran and Iraq. It is now over Oman. Next, apparently, are UAE and Qatar. https://t.co/2O3ZP75k1S
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Old Mar 22, 2018, 1:57 pm
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Just been following LY72 on flightradar and it has changed course and it looks like it is heading for Saudi Arabia too...
On second thoughts...looks like just an estimated position so probably wrong....oh we can wish!

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Old Mar 22, 2018, 2:11 pm
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Old Mar 22, 2018, 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by AntonyL
Just been following LY72 on flightradar and it has changed course and it looks like it is heading for Saudi Arabia too...
On second thoughts...looks like just an estimated position so probably wrong....oh we can wish!
Because LY72 stopped transmitting its signal, you only see a theoretically calculated shortest route.
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Old Mar 23, 2018, 12:11 am
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AI140 TLV-DEL landed earlier this morning with a flight time of 5h32m!
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Old Mar 23, 2018, 12:25 am
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AI140 TLV-DEL landed earlier this morning with a flight time of 5h32m!
And landed on RWY 08; everything about this flight is abnormal
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Old Mar 24, 2018, 11:08 am
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I wonder if the next step would be that Israel will allow eastbound traffic to go over its airspace. Right now all that traffic (except for RJ) has to detour via Egypt.
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Old Mar 24, 2018, 11:52 pm
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Oman, UAE, and Qatar also allowed AI to use their airspace or has this never been an issue?
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Old Mar 25, 2018, 12:01 am
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I remember, about 20 years ago, flying SAA on a TLV-J'Burg flight having to land in Cairo for about 3 minutes because a number of African nations would not allow flights originating in Israel to overfly their territory. I have no idea if that has since changed.
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Old Mar 25, 2018, 1:19 am
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Originally Posted by Dovster
I remember, about 20 years ago, flying SAA on a TLV-J'Burg flight having to land in Cairo for about 3 minutes because a number of African nations would not allow flights originating in Israel to overfly their territory. I have no idea if that has since changed.
For a period about two years ago, ET flights from ADD-TLV stopped in CAI, for a similar reason.
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Old Mar 25, 2018, 2:40 am
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Originally Posted by Dovster
I remember, about 20 years ago, flying SAA on a TLV-J'Burg flight having to land in Cairo for about 3 minutes because a number of African nations would not allow flights originating in Israel to overfly their territory. I have no idea if that has since changed.
SAA doesn't fly to TLV anymore
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Old Mar 25, 2018, 5:53 am
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Originally Posted by Ditto
SAA doesn't fly to TLV anymore

That takes care of the problem.
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Old Mar 28, 2018, 11:40 am
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El Al Suing Israel Over Air India Flight Using Saudi Airspace

The Points Guy - by Jessica Puckett

March 28, 2018 - 14 minutes ago

QUOTE:
"Israel’s national airline, El Al, petitioned Israel’s Supreme Court on Wednesday, filing suit in seeking to stop Air India from taking a shorter path on its nonstop flight from New Delhi (DEL) to Tel Aviv (TLV) through Saudi airspace.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/el-al-...audi-airspace/
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Old Mar 28, 2018, 12:29 pm
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El Al Suing Israel Over Air India Flight Using Saudi Airspace
The Points Guy - by Jessica Puckett
March 28, 2018 - 14 minutes ago
"Israel’s national airline, El Al, petitioned Israel’s Supreme Court on Wednesday, filing suit in seeking to stop Air India from taking a shorter path on its nonstop flight from New Delhi (DEL) to Tel Aviv (TLV) through Saudi airspace.
It’s indeed an unfair competition but I think that the supreme court will not stop the shorter flights. LY can only ask for compensation although I think that in this case they are suing the wrong country (hint KSA )
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Old Mar 28, 2018, 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerby


It’s indeed an unfair competition but I think that the supreme court will not stop the shorter flights. LY can only ask for compensation although I think that in this case they are suing the wrong country (hint KSA )

It makes little sense that are suing their own government when it is not the state action of Israel. The problem cannot be redressed by Israel as it is KSA who are making the exception unless they prohibit flights that operate over KSA from flying into Israel. This would be a clearly targeted law which are generally disfavored but not sure how they are regarded under the Israeli constitution
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