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gordo6 Jun 10, 2015 1:11 pm

P6 (Privilege Style) 767 to operate on behalf of LY
 
Starting next week, P6 will operate a 767 on behalf of LY to the EU. Business class will have 18 seats and economy will have 229 seats. There will be no economy plus.

Business class (looks better than LY 767 seats):
http://fly-news.es/wp-content/uploads/PVG_business1.jpg

Economy class:
https://fly-news.es/wp-content/uploads/PVG_turista.jpg

Operation starts next week, and will last until the end of August.

Flight list:
http://www.elal.com/SiteCollectionDo...n%202015-3.pdf

That makes an overall of 2 planes wet-leased by LY this summer (see - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/el-al...ights-prg.html )... Just shows how poor their planning is...

clubman Jun 11, 2015 2:14 am


Originally Posted by gordo6 (Post 24949809)
Business class (looks better than LY 767 seats):

Looks just as bad to me.

This is the memo sent out to the agents yesterday

On a separate note, what a shame you broke the 5 days silence on here - I was hoping to reach a week which would be a new record... ;)

joshwex90 Jun 11, 2015 2:25 am

Looks like the current 777 C seats, just different color

economyman Jun 11, 2015 4:39 am


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 24952779)
Looks just as bad to me.

Well at least it's a shell seat, don't think the LY 767 has those.

TLVtraveler Jun 11, 2015 7:43 am

It looks a lot better then the LY 767, it's most certainly better then most EU J class to TLV (except BA, and wide body LX).

shuly Jun 11, 2015 10:13 am

Wet lease
 
I think that what's interesting and important here is that this is a wet lease. Apparently, UP flights to Prague operated by Travel Service, the 767 flights to Europe operated by Privilege Style and -- my travel agent told me today -- also El Al new service to Boston are all wet leased.

What this means is that pax flying El Al are faced with foreign crews, often with no Hebrew speakers on board. This must be quite frustrating for some. I can imagine passengers choosing El Al for a variety of reasons, but "national pride", a (real or perceived) sense of security and the ability to communicate with the crew in Hebrew must be prominent among them.

Here's an item from Haaretz on this (Hebrew):
http://www.haaretz.co.il/tmr/1.2657507
In short, it says that El Al extends its wet least agreements "in spite of passengers protests". "According to passengers, although they purchased tickets with the Israeli airline, they realized they had to fly a foreign carrier".

Shuly

clubman Jun 11, 2015 10:41 am


Originally Posted by TLVtraveler (Post 24953716)
(except BA, and wide body LX).

And wide body IB let me add.

clubman Jun 11, 2015 10:49 am


Originally Posted by shuly (Post 24954495)
What this means is that pax flying El Al are faced with foreign crews, often with no Hebrew speakers on board. This must be quite frustrating for some. I can imagine passengers choosing El Al for a variety of reasons, but "national pride", a (real or perceived) sense of security and the ability to communicate with the crew in Hebrew must be prominent among them.

I tend t agree with that, although all these flights are meant to have some LY stuff on board as well.

Re Boston I didn't realise this was a leased aircraft as well.

NYTA Jun 14, 2015 2:02 pm

With no LY crew there's really zero reason to fly LY. I'm shocked that the unions haven't gone on strike about this.

gordo6 Jun 15, 2015 4:10 am

P6 (Privilege Style) 767 to operate on behalf of LY
 
Why would they? It is not that they will be working less... All of LY planes will be utilized throughout the summer as well.

Also, there will be one LY crew member onboard each of such flight...

awayIgo Jun 15, 2015 6:40 am

I wonder what that does to the Kashrut of regular meals. If the heating carts have been used with non-Kosher food, than the regularly sealed regular Kosher ( versus Regal which is double sealed) will be heated in a non-Kosher environment, making them non-Kosher. ( at least the way I am reading this) That means passengers need to be told up front. ( but they won't be)

LatusElAl Jun 15, 2015 9:24 am

They COULD kasher the ovens . . .
Where is that LY employee - Liat?

Houminer Jun 15, 2015 11:02 am


Originally Posted by LatusElAl (Post 24972833)
They COULD kasher the ovens . . .
Where is that LY employee - Liat?

I don't think Liat really cares about FT.

LY777 Jun 16, 2015 6:14 am


Originally Posted by shuly (Post 24954495)
and -- my travel agent told me today -- also El Al new service to Boston are all wet leased.

Really surprising.
I heard the flights would be operated by updated 4X-EAJ

gordo6 Jun 16, 2015 1:33 pm


Originally Posted by LY777 (Post 24977466)
Really surprising.
I heard the flights would be operated by updated 4X-EAJ

Because, AFAIK, that's not correct...


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