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NYTA Jul 19, 2014 10:38 pm

Time to stop flying TK from TLV?
 
I have been a big fan of TK for quite some time - flying them to Europe several times a year from TLV. I never felt in danger flying them and find them to be better than most airlines. Given Erdogan's recent statements calling Israel more barbaric than Hitler, however, and the protests at the Israeli embassy attended by parliamentarians I think it's time to quit flying TK. It's too bad as I'm sure the fares will be even lower now but I don't think I can give money to a state airline of a state whose leaders behave this way. What do you all think?

awayIgo Jul 19, 2014 10:48 pm

I"m with you. They supposedly have excellent flights with low prices from JFK to TLV.( via Turkey) I wouldn't even consider it!

LY777 Jul 20, 2014 12:29 am

This is what I was telling for years, guys...

Turkey govt hates Israel, and I wouldn't give them money.

Fly El Al, OUR airline

clubman Jul 20, 2014 1:03 am


Originally Posted by LY777 (Post 23225203)
Fly El Al, OUR airline

Do you get paid by them or something? :D

Tell me why I should fly ELAL rather than BA for example? (I'm asking seriously)

NYTA Jul 20, 2014 1:08 am

I have no problem flying other countries' airlines - because OUR airline sucks and often costs double the price of other airlines, but I think I'll just have to limit it to countries whose leaders don't compare us to the Nazis.

LY777 Jul 20, 2014 4:33 am

No, I am not paid by anyone.

But when I fly to Israel, I fly LY (anyway, from CDG, do I have the choice?).

I prefer to give my money to Israel

joshwex90 Jul 20, 2014 4:52 am

I doubt TK is problematic to fly. As long as you're staying the airport, you should definitely be fine as the airport and airline remain very professional. Judging by previous flare-ups, may be helpful to have an additional passport.

Though the question of whether or not to SUPPORT a Turkish company and Turkish airport is an individual decision, probably best left for OMNI/PR.

mkilmo Jul 20, 2014 5:09 am

Well, is TK is owned by the Turkish govt? nope.

Would you consider flying LH given their past? or LX? or for that matter OU/LO?

joshwex90 Jul 20, 2014 5:16 am


Originally Posted by mkilmo (Post 23225681)
Well, is TK is owned by the Turkish govt? nope.

I'm pretty sure the state (Turkey) still owns a large part of the airline (TK). Over 49% according to articles dated 2013

clubman Jul 20, 2014 5:30 am


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 23225693)
I'm pretty sure the state still owns a large part of the airline. Over 49% according to articles dated 2013

Which is more than you can say for LY...

clubman Jul 20, 2014 5:31 am


Originally Posted by LY777 (Post 23225613)
But when I fly to Israel, I fly LY (anyway, from CDG, do I have the choice?).

Of course you have a choice, although I agree LY is the best option from CDG.

LY777 Jul 20, 2014 5:57 am


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 23225729)
Of course you have a choice, although I agree LY is the best option from CDG.

which choice? AF with their crappy A320s and their famous European "Business Class"?

clubman Jul 20, 2014 5:59 am


Originally Posted by LY777 (Post 23225802)
which choice? AF with their crappy A320s and their famous European "Business Class"?

That's still a choice my friend, even if not an attractive one...

LY777 Jul 20, 2014 7:22 am

Even AF F/As say that AF is a poor choice on the route.

ELY001 Jul 20, 2014 7:52 am

I am a strong proponent of free and fair competition, however the recent comments made by the Turkish PM, which come on the heels of years of overtly anti-Israeli and anti-Jewish actions, are beyond reprehensible and make a mockery of history. Consequently, I believe Jews and Israelis are not safe flying TK to/from Israel and even if we are I think we should not financially support an airline from a nation, who itself is guilty of a Nazi genocide against one of it's own minorities, and which has the edacity to maintain this despicable mouthpiece in high public office.


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