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Houminer Nov 29, 2010 1:14 am

MR in LY
 
All our neighbor forums this time of year have discussions about MR's. Since in Matmid the status miles are calculated for 12 months we don’t have a "MR season".
Does anyone do MR's with Matmid?
Have any of you done MR's in the past?
Do you want to share your experience?

joshwex90 Nov 29, 2010 1:28 am


Originally Posted by Houminer (Post 15326896)
All our neighbor forums this time of year have discussions about MR's. Since in Matmid the status miles are calculated for 12 months we don’t have a "MR season".
Does anyone do MR's with Matmid?
Have any of you done MR's in the past?
Do you want to share your experience?

I know someone who did a mileage run once. Problem is that to get most bang for buck, meaning the most possible points, you're usually stuck to LY or an LY codeshare, which means constantly flying back and forth from TLV, their only hub. It's much easier in the US for example, to do a mileage run, where, if you're with UA, you have 5 hub to choose from PLUS 2 airlines (CO and US) to codeshare with.

clubman Nov 29, 2010 7:48 am

Other than M&M what other FF programs are bases on a calendar year?

Only MR I ever did on LY was many years back, when I was missing some point for Gold so took a quick flight to LCA and all sorted.

Houminer Nov 29, 2010 7:54 am


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 15329883)
Only MR I ever did on LY was many years back, when I was missing some point for Gold so took a quick flight to LCA and all sorted.

Did you stay overnight in LCA or did you manage to catch the return flight back?

joshwex90 Nov 29, 2010 8:20 am


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 15329883)
Other than M&M what other FF programs are bases on a calendar year?

I think most (if not all) *A programs.

clubman Nov 29, 2010 11:04 am


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 15330234)
I think most (if not all) *A programs.

Not DC.

clubman Nov 29, 2010 11:07 am


Originally Posted by Houminer (Post 15329942)
Did you stay overnight in LCA or did you manage to catch the return flight back?

Did a same day turn around.
I think I was on the ground for less than an hour.

I remember the looks I got when the crew saw me back on board.
I was in C and the FA asked me whether I wanted yet the same meal I had just about an hour earlier...

joshwex90 Nov 29, 2010 1:29 pm


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 15332245)
Not DC.

Never heard of it. Had to do a search for it, and Google only wanted to show me sites related to Washington D.C. Finally searched on Wikipedia, and found it was an airline called Golden Air. But they aren't a member of *A. The only connection they seem to have to *A is a partnership with Blue1, with all flights to/from Helsinki flown for them. But I don't think that's what you meant...

joshwex90 Nov 29, 2010 1:32 pm


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 15332287)
Did a same day turn around.
I think I was on the ground for less than an hour.

I remember the looks I got when the crew saw me back on board.
I was in C and the FA asked me whether I wanted yet the same meal I had just about an hour earlier...

How did you manage to book that? Just wrote the same day return, and LY had no problem booking you with only 1 hour between flights?

And did you get the same meal :p

clubman Nov 29, 2010 1:43 pm


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 15334282)
Never heard of it.

Sorry, I meant DC as in BD's Diamond Club!

joshwex90 Nov 29, 2010 1:46 pm


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 15334500)
sorry, I meant DC as in BD's Diamond Club!

Oh, sorry! :D It's funny, because as soon as I posted, I had a funny feeling you meant bmi. But that program is folding into M&M anyways.

clubman Nov 29, 2010 1:50 pm


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 15334556)
But that program is folding into M&M anyways.

Well yes, at some point, but I'm enjoying it while it lasts...

clubman Nov 29, 2010 1:55 pm


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 15334321)
How did you manage to book that?

honestly can't remember now but don't recall having any issues.


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 15334321)
And did you get the same meal :p

Of course! :)

ebzed Nov 29, 2010 9:42 pm

I Did once, TLV -> CDG -> TLV with Over night (Flying Sunday Returning Monday), Then TLV -> MAD -> TLV returning the same day, And the day after, flying to Las-Vegas... If you want to call it MR, then call it MR... 8-)
(it didnt helped me much for any status), But it did gave me an excuse to recover at the Rhinos! 8-)

joshwex90 Nov 30, 2010 1:39 am


Originally Posted by ebzed (Post 15341185)
I Did once, TLV -> CDG -> TLV with Over night (Flying Sunday Returning Monday), Then TLV -> MAD -> TLV returning the same day, And the day after, flying to Las-Vegas... If you want to call it MR, then call it MR... 8-)
(it didnt helped me much for any status), But it did gave me an excuse to recover at the Rhinos! 8-)

So why'd you do it? For work?

ebzed Nov 30, 2010 3:22 am


Originally Posted by joshwex90 (Post 15343283)
So why'd you do it? For work?

Well depends how you look on this, It did helped me to keep TPL, As it raised the amount of points i have, But it was pure work...
I am not the person to do MR if i will have a problem, I will try to talk to the club and see if there something to do, If not then they lost...

ELAL Nov 30, 2010 5:53 am


Originally Posted by ebzed (Post 15343949)
Well depends how you look on this, It did helped me to keep TPL, As it raised the amount of points i have.

Glad to hear that you managed to keep your your TPL status.

clubman Nov 30, 2010 6:16 am


Originally Posted by ebzed (Post 15343949)
But it was pure work...

Well in that case, it wasn't a Miles Run... :)

joshwex90 Nov 30, 2010 8:19 am


Originally Posted by ebzed (Post 15343949)
Well depends how you look on this, It did helped me to keep TPL, As it raised the amount of points i have, But it was pure work...
I am not the person to do MR if i will have a problem, I will try to talk to the club and see if there something to do, If not then they lost...

I thought you said it didn't help you much for any status though?!

4X-ELI Dec 1, 2010 8:09 am

Connecting from the USA to Europe through TLV
 
Since it's a bit stupid I think this counts as a MR:
LAS-LAX-TLV-ZRH-TXL (this gives 600 points)

ebzed Dec 2, 2010 12:13 am


Originally Posted by 4X-ELI (Post 15358175)
Since it's a bit stupid I think this counts as a MR:
LAS-LAX-TLV-ZRH-TXL (this gives 600 points)

This is not fully done in LY... Doesnt count :)
I know someone (Israeli) lives in Thailand, that does BKK -> TLV -> JFK (and then vice versa) to get from BKK to JFK, I used to meet him either on the lounge or the plane.
Once of the nicest FF guys i ever saw.

4X-ELI Dec 2, 2010 12:36 am


Originally Posted by ebzed (Post 15364249)
This is not fully done in LY... Doesnt count :)

only the last leg is LX.. wish me luck, it's starting in the morning..

JohnnieZ Dec 2, 2010 1:03 am


Originally Posted by 4X-ELI (Post 15364310)
only the last leg is LX.. wish me luck, it's starting in the morning..

And the first leg (AA?).
Good luck and sleep well.

clubman Dec 2, 2010 1:52 am

I think some people might be missing the point of a miles run here...

A miles run is not a trip you do because you had to do it anyway for work or a planned holiday etc.

It's purely for the sake of gaining or retaining status with an airline FF program.

Houminer Dec 2, 2010 4:29 am


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 15364489)
I think some people might be missing the point of a miles run here...

A miles run is not a trip you do because you had to do it anyway for work or a planned holiday etc.

It's purely for the sake of gaining or retaining status with an airline FF program.

^

4X-ELI Dec 4, 2010 5:16 pm


Originally Posted by JohnnieZ (Post 15364382)
And the first leg (AA?).
Good luck and sleep well.

Yes.. It was AA with LY code. My impression of the trip:

It's been a very long day. Two tickets:
LAS-LY(AA)-LAX-LY-TLV
TLV-LY(LX)-ZRH-LX-TXL

LAS-LAX: (AA on LY code, F)
Asked check in agent to tag my luggage for LAX as I wanted
LY's priority tags there. He said it's impossible. Contact the
supervisor etc and made me promise that I will not hold AA
responsible if I didn't make the connection and he agreed.
Gives BP of LY flight as well.
No lounge in LAS (only CO), so I sat in starbucks..

LAX-TLV: (LY, C)
30 minutes line in LY's C line. Many passengers passing through
in F line. I counted 15, only 6 occupied F on the flight. In the lounge
it was late enough to print LX boarding passes.
Flight took off and landed exactly on scheduled times. 2 hours
in TLV.

TLV-LAX: (LX on LY code, C)
Had to go out, pass biometric border control, customs. Have someone
outside get my luggage, remain only with carry-on. This proved a
bit complicated and left 40 minutes before flight to get in again.
Had my boarding pass, LX checkin was closing got security agent to
put a new security sticker on my passport - 15 minutes line (25
remaining). biometric border control doesn't work -
It turns out you cannot get out and get in within 24 hours. Must go
to border officers - 10 minutes line.
Officer to check I passed border control - 5 minutes(!)
All are personal records for me.
Got to a/c as it was closing the doors.

LAX-TXL: (LX, C)
ZRH border control and security check - absolutly empty, 2 minutes
and I'm in the lounge, 45 minutes wait that turned 1:45
Arriving at TXL it takes exactly 1:05 minutes (I looked at the watch)
from disembark to taxi stand, 15 minutes to hotel.

Total of 30 hours, 6 aircraft "meals", 3 lounges, 30+400+200 LY points,
1250 (I think..) LH points

ELI

JohnnieZ Dec 4, 2010 5:29 pm


Originally Posted by 4X-ELI (Post 15382186)
Total of 30 hours, 6 aircraft "meals", 3 lounges, 30+400+200 LY points,
1250 (I think..) LH points

Wow, quite a trip!
Interesting update about the biometric border control.

ebzed Dec 8, 2010 2:06 pm


Originally Posted by 4X-ELI (Post 15382186)
Have someone outside get my luggage, remain only with carry-on.

You know there are easier ways to smuggle stuff to israel than doing all of this tour...:p

I did once SYD -> BKK -> TLV -> CDG -> TLV -> JFK -> DEN -> LAS, Again not MR but work... (No longer than 4.5 hours on each airport) - Now i see i am not the only crazy guy here...

4X-ELI Dec 8, 2010 2:52 pm


Originally Posted by ebzed (Post 15408523)
You know there are easier ways to smuggle stuff to israel than doing all of this tour...:p

Please share :D

mkilmo Dec 10, 2010 12:11 am


Originally Posted by 4X-ELI (Post 15382186)
Total of 30 hours, 6 aircraft "meals", 3 lounges, 30+400+200 LY points,
1250 (I think..) LH points

ELI

Should be 2000 M&M miles. If you have FTL or higher status on M&M - 25% extra.

Shimon Dec 13, 2010 3:05 am


Originally Posted by 4X-ELI (Post 15408884)
Please share :D

Opening the door in flight and chucking it out.:rolleyes:

Next time, get the person who you are giving the suitcase to to get security clearance and meet you on the other side or the airport. Talk to a manager before hand and explain that your trying the smuggle drugs... sorry deliver business supplies.


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