May 10, 2013, 5:50 am
New routes / extra frequencies to and from TLV - all airlines
Dec 25, 2018, 12:03 am
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Well yes. Hence why they are low cost and BA and LY are full service carriers. I'm not arguing BA's prices are not expensive from TLV, they certainly are But LY are no better in that resect.
It's been an expensive route for years and despite the LCC entering the market that hasn't made much of a difference. You realise how expensive it is when you search for a LHR-JFK/LAX-LHR flights and see BA (as well as VS) are selling the route for $350...
Whether VS entering the TLV market will make a difference price wise remain to be seen, but allow me to be sceptic on that front.
It's been an expensive route for years and despite the LCC entering the market that hasn't made much of a difference. You realise how expensive it is when you search for a LHR-JFK/LAX-LHR flights and see BA (as well as VS) are selling the route for $350...
Whether VS entering the TLV market will make a difference price wise remain to be seen, but allow me to be sceptic on that front.
Dec 25, 2018, 3:45 am
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Well yes. Hence why they are low cost and BA and LY are full service carriers. I'm not arguing BA's prices are not expensive from TLV, they certainly are But LY are no better in that resect.
It's been an expensive route for years and despite the LCC entering the market that hasn't made much of a difference. You realise how expensive it is when you search for a LHR-JFK/LAX-LHR flights and see BA (as well as VS) are selling the route for $350...
Whether VS entering the TLV market will make a difference price wise remain to be seen, but allow me to be sceptic on that front.
It's been an expensive route for years and despite the LCC entering the market that hasn't made much of a difference. You realise how expensive it is when you search for a LHR-JFK/LAX-LHR flights and see BA (as well as VS) are selling the route for $350...
Whether VS entering the TLV market will make a difference price wise remain to be seen, but allow me to be sceptic on that front.
Dec 25, 2018, 5:12 am
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There are high taxes both on leaving from TLV and the Air Passenger duty on leaving the UK. APD for a flight to Israel in Economy class is 78GBP or $98 at current exchange rates. IAA shows fees of $26 per departing passenger from Ben Gurion Terminal 3 and $12 for Terminal 1. There are other general fees imposed by the IAA per flight, which airlines probably allocate per passenger as well.
Dec 30, 2018, 2:28 pm
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Meanwhile, down south, Eilat is partially opening to domestic flights on 1/22.
https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-e...nth-1001266965
They will move the flights over slowly from ETH. No word yet as to when international flights will start - the talk was April 2019, but now I am hearing of delays because of lack of emergency response units at the new Airport.
https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-e...nth-1001266965
They will move the flights over slowly from ETH. No word yet as to when international flights will start - the talk was April 2019, but now I am hearing of delays because of lack of emergency response units at the new Airport.
Dec 30, 2018, 3:34 pm
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Meanwhile, down south, Eilat is partially opening to domestic flights on 1/22.
https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-e...nth-1001266965
They will move the flights over slowly from ETH. No word yet as to when international flights will start - the talk was April 2019, but now I am hearing of delays because of lack of emergency response units at the new Airport.
https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-e...nth-1001266965
They will move the flights over slowly from ETH. No word yet as to when international flights will start - the talk was April 2019, but now I am hearing of delays because of lack of emergency response units at the new Airport.
Dec 30, 2018, 4:36 pm
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Ive always wondered why they let BA have the route to themselves, 1 thing if they flew it and lost their pants another not to fly it at all
Dec 31, 2018, 9:26 am
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Good point. Their NYC flights are all from LHR, so makes sense that the proposed TLV flights will also be to LHR. It seems they only fly to MCO and LAS from LGW.
Jan 2, 2019, 9:13 am
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Philippines Airlines wants to start direct flights to Israel
https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...hts-to-israel/
They've asked permission to overfly Saudi Arabia to make these flights possible. I personally don't think they will be allowed because:
1. Philippines is not India
2. Current instability in Saudi Arabia over last few months means the Saudis will not want show right now that they are "normalizing" with Israel.
They've asked permission to overfly Saudi Arabia to make these flights possible. I personally don't think they will be allowed because:
1. Philippines is not India
2. Current instability in Saudi Arabia over last few months means the Saudis will not want show right now that they are "normalizing" with Israel.
Jan 2, 2019, 9:08 pm
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/livebl...hts-to-israel/
They've asked permission to overfly Saudi Arabia to make these flights possible. I personally don't think they will be allowed because:
1. Philippines is not India
2. Current instability in Saudi Arabia over last few months means the Saudis will not want show right now that they are "normalizing" with Israel.
They've asked permission to overfly Saudi Arabia to make these flights possible. I personally don't think they will be allowed because:
1. Philippines is not India
2. Current instability in Saudi Arabia over last few months means the Saudis will not want show right now that they are "normalizing" with Israel.
And from the South China Morning Post
Philippine Airlines seeks Saudi overfly permit for direct route to Israel
Thursday, 03 January, 2019
QUOTE:
"Direct Philippines-Israel flights would be welcomed by the thousands of Filipinos employed as careworkers in Israel, and tourists heading in either direction. The number of tourists visiting Israel from the Philippines rose by 61 per cent in 2017, and tourism in the other direction rose by 42 per cent in 2016."
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/south...t-direct-route
Jan 3, 2019, 3:30 am
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Analysis of Virgin Atlantic possibility
https://onemileatatime.com/virgin-atlantic-tel-aviv/
Pretty good analysis of the possibility of Virgin Atlantic opening up a route to TLV. Though I disagree about the lie-flat beds as BA, IB, and LX all use long-haul planes with lie flat beds for at least some of their flights to TLV.
Pretty good analysis of the possibility of Virgin Atlantic opening up a route to TLV. Though I disagree about the lie-flat beds as BA, IB, and LX all use long-haul planes with lie flat beds for at least some of their flights to TLV.
Jan 4, 2019, 6:39 am
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https://onemileatatime.com/virgin-atlantic-tel-aviv/
Pretty good analysis of the possibility of Virgin Atlantic opening up a route to TLV. Though I disagree about the lie-flat beds as BA, IB, and LX all use long-haul planes with lie flat beds for at least some of their flights to TLV.
Pretty good analysis of the possibility of Virgin Atlantic opening up a route to TLV. Though I disagree about the lie-flat beds as BA, IB, and LX all use long-haul planes with lie flat beds for at least some of their flights to TLV.
Just to point out, BA and IB use only L/H aircraft with lie flat beds on the route. With LX is varies. They were using two L/H aircraft a day, but are now using one S/H and one L/H (77W).
Jan 7, 2019, 8:18 am
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Kigali here we come
RwandAir announcing the start of direct flights to Israel.
https://www.calcalistech.com/ctech/a...753725,00.html
https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Rw...-flight-576579
https://www.calcalistech.com/ctech/a...753725,00.html
https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Rw...-flight-576579
Jan 7, 2019, 9:38 am
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El Al starting flights to Dubrovnik
https://www.croatiaweek.com/israels-...ovnik-service/
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