New routes / extra frequencies to and from TLV - all airlines
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UA operates p.s. flights on the SFO/LAX-JFK route. All LAX-JFK flights and all SFO-JFK flights are p.s., or "Premium Service." They have their own subfleet of 752s which are 3-class, including lie-flat in F, and international C. They are doing a reconfig of the whole fleet, which will leave 26 C seats, the same ones that CO installed on their 772s/752s, and will have WiFi (they already do), and have AVOD and power throughout the fleet.
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New routes / extra frequencies to and from TLV - all airlines
Yeah I'm aware of that, and am actually really looking forward to having a BF seat on a domestic trans con, but, North American airlines will never match the style and finesse of the european carriers, hence my preference to transit europe :-)
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Hard product - F
New LX>New LH>New UA>Old LX>Old UA>Old LH
Hard product - C
New US>AC>New BF>LX>New UA>Old BF>Old US>LH>Old UA
Soft product - F
LX>LH>UA
Soft prduct - C
UA>LX>US>AC>LH
In Y, UA, AC, US are all about the same. LX is similar, though slightly worse, as the North American carriers have AVOD. LH, however, I avoid like the plague. Service is roughly similar, and usually depends on the crew. UA meals are better. LX/LH have free booze though.
And for domestic travel, at least the North American carriers have an F cabin. LH/LX simply don't sell the middle seat. 28 inch seat pitch! Really!
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and as for not having AVOD o nthe narrow body fleet, eh, no big deal, most of the flights LX sends them on aren't much longer than 3 hours anyways.
I hate Euro J. Never EVER do I pay for it.
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and as for not having AVOD o nthe narrow body fleet, eh, no big deal, most of the flights LX sends them on aren't much longer than 3 hours anyways.
In the USA, you have IFE. None in Europe. That's all I was saying. I rarely do narrow-body flights in Europe anyways, and if they are, most would be ex-TLV or to TLV anyways, so I'd likely to LY anyways which is better than the competition (don't worry - only in that regard!)
I hate Euro J. Never EVER do I pay for it.
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Uhhm, Mein teiyereh yiddishe brider, yes LX does have AVOD in Y. And a pretty good one to boot! HD screen, good selection, easy to navigate, etc..
KSML out of YUL is either a desent fish meal or something earily similar to the KSML beef dish they serve on LX-254 for lunch in Y.
I like transiting ZRH as well, Daven before the plane leaves
When was the last time you transited ZRH to TLV BTW? It's possible we saw eachother.
Oyy, you poor man. why oh why did you waste your hard earned $$ on J for BRU-ZRH. Oh well, at least you enjoyed right
KSML out of YUL is either a desent fish meal or something earily similar to the KSML beef dish they serve on LX-254 for lunch in Y.
I like transiting ZRH as well, Daven before the plane leaves
When was the last time you transited ZRH to TLV BTW? It's possible we saw eachother.
Oyy, you poor man. why oh why did you waste your hard earned $$ on J for BRU-ZRH. Oh well, at least you enjoyed right
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If UA had a night flight connecting to the early morning PS flights I'd far prefer that to waking up at 2am to make the LH/LX morning flight - my ideal would be a 10:30 or 11pm TLV-JFK that lets me connect to the 6am PS flight to SFO - you sleep all night on the plane and arrive at 9:30am to SFO for a full productive day.
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In Y, you may be right about the AVOD actually. But I do find the interface harder to navigate. Obviously, as with most issues like this, YMMV. Things also depend on what you're used to. I'm used to UA.
KSML out of YUL is either a desent fish meal or something earily similar to the KSML beef dish they serve on LX-254 for lunch in Y.
I like transiting ZRH as well, Daven before the plane leaves
When was the last time you transited ZRH to TLV BTW? It's possible we saw eachother.
When was the last time you transited ZRH to TLV BTW? It's possible we saw eachother.
Oyy, you poor man. why oh why did you waste your hard earned $$ on J for BRU-ZRH. Oh well, at least you enjoyed right
If UA had a night flight connecting to the early morning PS flights I'd far prefer that to waking up at 2am to make the LH/LX morning flight - my ideal would be a 10:30 or 11pm TLV-JFK that lets me connect to the 6am PS flight to SFO - you sleep all night on the plane and arrive at 9:30am to SFO for a full productive day.
While they won't likely expand p.s. to EWR, transiting EWR is definitely better, as clearing customs is much quicker there than at JFK. (Not much of an issue with me as I have Global Entry.)
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AF to start MRS-TLV
Air France to inaugurate Tel Aviv-Marseilles route - Globes
Highlights of the article
Highlights of the article
- Route will begin September 5
- 3 weekly flights (Sunday, Wednesday, and Saturday)
- $370 r/t
- 178-seat A320
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Air France to inaugurate Tel Aviv-Marseilles route - Globes
Highlights of the article
Highlights of the article
- Route will begin September 5
- 3 weekly flights (Sunday, Wednesday, and Saturday)
- $370 r/t
- 178-seat A320
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Yes I agree about regal / hermo / Shalom.
Last time I was in ZRH was april 30th.
LX087 YUL-ZRH arrives in Zürich at 0625, usually earlier.
Your right about UA and a route to TLV from JFK. I don't see it.
Why doesn't UA offer P.S. from ORD as well? It's long enough I think.
I quite like LX's entertainment system. CO's is good too.
Doesn't LY also serve Marseilles? Might be a good mileage run route for those with LY or AF. More competition, lower prices. Etc...
Last time I was in ZRH was april 30th.
LX087 YUL-ZRH arrives in Zürich at 0625, usually earlier.
Your right about UA and a route to TLV from JFK. I don't see it.
Why doesn't UA offer P.S. from ORD as well? It's long enough I think.
I quite like LX's entertainment system. CO's is good too.
Doesn't LY also serve Marseilles? Might be a good mileage run route for those with LY or AF. More competition, lower prices. Etc...
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rafi2k6, I forgot to mention the other benefit of the minyan by the LX flight ZRH-TLV. After getting off that UA flight, where everyone looks Aryan and is staring at my kippa and tzitzit, it's nice to see some fellow Jews!
If I was on that flight, I'd probably take the train to the main terminal, clear customs just to shower at the Biz Lounge. (Which is better, IMO, than the Senator Lounge.)
ORD in either direction isn't long enough. JFK-SFO/LAX are not only transcontinental flights, they're the big ones. So p.s. is the diffrentiator. Most American carriers have something special about their transcons in general, and the NYC-LAX/SFO flights in particular. DL has a BusinessElite lite; AA has special things; UA has p.s.
I found UA to have the best interface, CO to have the most movies, and BA to have the best map. But what I liked about LX was that they show you lots of info at the end of the flight that you rarely see otherwise - gate you're going to, and where all the connecting flights depart from. VERY HELPFUL!
Yes they do
Your right about UA and a route to TLV from JFK. I don't see it.
Why doesn't UA offer P.S. from ORD as well? It's long enough I think.
Why doesn't UA offer P.S. from ORD as well? It's long enough I think.
I quite like LX's entertainment system. CO's is good too.
Doesn't LY also serve Marseilles? Might be a good mileage run route for those with LY or AF. More competition, lower prices. Etc...
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rafi2k6, I forgot to mention the other benefit of the minyan by the LX flight ZRH-TLV. After getting off that UA flight, where everyone looks Aryan and is staring at my kippa and tzitzit, it's nice to see some fellow Jews!
If I was on that flight, I'd probably take the train to the main terminal, clear customs just to shower at the Biz Lounge. (Which is better, IMO, than the Senator Lounge.)
ORD in either direction isn't long enough. JFK-SFO/LAX are not only transcontinental flights, they're the big ones. So p.s. is the diffrentiator. Most American carriers have something special about their transcons in general, and the NYC-LAX/SFO flights in particular. DL has a BusinessElite lite; AA has special things; UA has p.s.
I found UA to have the best interface, CO to have the most movies, and BA to have the best map. But what I liked about LX was that they show you lots of info at the end of the flight that you rarely see otherwise - gate you're going to, and where all the connecting flights depart from. VERY HELPFUL!
Yes they do
If I was on that flight, I'd probably take the train to the main terminal, clear customs just to shower at the Biz Lounge. (Which is better, IMO, than the Senator Lounge.)
ORD in either direction isn't long enough. JFK-SFO/LAX are not only transcontinental flights, they're the big ones. So p.s. is the diffrentiator. Most American carriers have something special about their transcons in general, and the NYC-LAX/SFO flights in particular. DL has a BusinessElite lite; AA has special things; UA has p.s.
I found UA to have the best interface, CO to have the most movies, and BA to have the best map. But what I liked about LX was that they show you lots of info at the end of the flight that you rarely see otherwise - gate you're going to, and where all the connecting flights depart from. VERY HELPFUL!
Yes they do
Lol the Aryan thing, imagine what I feel like in full chassidishe levush. Burich Sheh Loi Usani Goy is what I have to say!
Hmm, I dunno, I think ORD being the hub that it is should have a slightyly inferior P.S. to JFK/EWR but better than the normal mid-cons.
Agree with you on the entertainment systems.
Does anyone know how KE's SEL-TLV service is going? I know that they've upgraded it from an A332 to a 772. Possibilty of daily?