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blaster Oct 9, 2012 3:13 am

easyjet flexi fare
 
Hi,
Anyone with experience of easyjet's flexi tickets able to help me out?

I need to take a Friday evening easyjet flight, in a few weeks time, which is already quite pricey. The flexi ticket for the following Tuesday is selling at a lower price (and then it includes speedy boarding, a check-in bag and no admin fee).

Reading the T&Cs for the flexi ticket it looks as though I can move the flexi ticket onto a flight up to 1 week earlier than the booked travel date. So appears that I can book it, and then move it to the Friday night flight...?

What am I missing? :confused: Do they charge for a fare differential if the flight you want to move to is more expensive? I can't see it in the T&Cs but can't believe that this loophole exists.

Or does it comes down to "subject to seat availability"?
http://www.easyjet.com/en/book/conditions.html#a9

Thanks for any advice!

Mandira Oct 14, 2012 5:34 pm

Your link pretty much answers the question in the first section:

9.1.1 Passengers can transfer Flights (that is, the date and time or the route of the Flight) for an administration fee per passenger per Flight (see Our Fees and Charges), plus any difference between the original fare paid and the lowest fare available for the same Flight at the time the change is made. If the available fare is lower than the original fare paid, no refund will be made.

pacer142 Oct 15, 2012 10:01 am


Originally Posted by Mandira (Post 19495663)
Your link pretty much answers the question in the first section:

No, it doesn't, that applies to the normal fare (all easyJet tickets are changeable, they do not sell non-changeable tickets).

The flexi fares are changeable *at no fee at all* within the bounds given. (Notably if you miss the flight you lose your ticket).

Obviously it is subject to availability of seats - if it's full you won't get on (they don't do standby as such).

So it sounds to me like your trick might work. Though at your own risk, of course.

Neil

andreadbc Oct 16, 2012 5:44 am


Originally Posted by pacer142 (Post 19499124)
No, it doesn't, that applies to the normal fare (all easyJet tickets are changeable, they do not sell non-changeable tickets).

The flexi fares are changeable *at no fee at all* within the bounds given. (Notably if you miss the flight you lose your ticket).

Obviously it is subject to availability of seats - if it's full you won't get on (they don't do standby as such).

So it sounds to me like your trick might work. Though at your own risk, of course.

I think section 9.1 is for regular flights and 9.2 for Flexi flights, so it would seem that this would work. It would be nice to have someone who has tried it confirm...


9.2 “easyJet Flexi”
9.2.1 easyJet Flexi is available on all Flights, subject to limited availability per Flight.
9.2.2 If You buy an easyJet Flexi Fare You will be able to make an unlimited number of free changes to the Flight time in Your original Booking, subject to the changed Flight time falling within a fixed 4 week time window (starting 1 week before the original travel date and ending 3 weeks after the original travel date). Changes to your easyJet Flexi Booking are subject to seat availability on alternative Flights. easyJet Flexi Bookings do not allow route changes (i.e. You are not entitled to change the departure or destination airports of Your original Booking). You must make any change to Your easyJet Flexi Booking at least two hours before the departure time of Your original Booking, otherwise You will forfeit Your ability to make a change.
9.2.4 No extra fees (unless additional services are purchased) shall be added to the easyJet Flexi Fare. Save for Exceptional Circumstances, no refund will apply if You are unable to fly.

pacer142 Oct 16, 2012 8:27 am


Originally Posted by andreadbc (Post 19504395)
I think section 9.1 is for regular flights and 9.2 for Flexi flights, so it would seem that this would work. It would be nice to have someone who has tried it confirm...

Can't say I've ever used one, as the normal change fee (£35) is not prohibitive, and the Flexi Fares are usually quite high, as well as you being able to "standby" an earlier flight on any fare type.

Don't really see why they bothered, apart from to cream off revenue from people who buy fully flexible tickets by default. Actually, that's probably exactly why they bothered.

Neil

stageright Oct 16, 2012 3:45 pm

It works! I took a risk and tried it just now. Saved me $70 U.S.! I did exactly as described -- bought a flexi-fare ticket for a Tuesday, then immediately switched to the flight I really wanted on the previous Friday. (Paid $150 for the fare, vs $221 for a standard fare + bag and admin fee.)

Mizter T Oct 16, 2012 4:33 pm


Originally Posted by stageright (Post 19507968)
It works! I took a risk and tried it just now. Saved me $70 U.S.! I did exactly as described -- bought a flexi-fare ticket for a Tuesday, then immediately switched to the flight I really wanted on the previous Friday. (Paid $150 for the fare, vs $221 for a standard fare + bag and admin fee.)

How immediately did you change it - literally straight away, or did you wait a short while?

It does seem like there's something of an opportunity here, at least if the circumstances (or should I say the prices) are right. Instinctively it feels a bit risky - but logically I'm not too sure it really is, as one can (or should be able to) tell if there's a seat (or seats) available on a particular flight simply because they should show up as being available for purchase when one does a regular flight search on the easyJet site.

(This isn't a legacy airline, it's an LCC, so there shouldn't be all the Byzantine complications of reserved allocations and seats only available to some and not others and the such like - rather, it should all be pretty straightforward, at least in terms of seat availability. Or am I overlooking something?)

p.s. Good work stageright on taking a punt on it!

pacer142 Oct 17, 2012 1:21 am


Originally Posted by Mizter T (Post 19508305)
It does seem like there's something of an opportunity here, at least if the circumstances (or should I say the prices) are right. Instinctively it feels a bit risky - but logically I'm not too sure it really is, as one can (or should be able to) tell if there's a seat (or seats) available on a particular flight simply because they should show up as being available for purchase when one does a regular flight search on the easyJet site.

I suspect it's the case that this will happen from time to time, but most people wouldn't understand it nor be willing to take the risk, so losses would be minimal.

A bit like ticketing tricks that can be played on the UK railway system to get around things like peak restrictions by "splitting tickets". It does cause losses, but they aren't large enough to be bothered doing anything about it other than trying to ensure as few people as possible know about it.

The first time EZY did flexible tickets they did it at "maximum fare" for the route (usually GBP299 single plus fees for the short-haul ones). But nobody bought them, so they now set it at a "calculated risk" type level, higher than the base fare but lower than GBP299.


(This isn't a legacy airline, it's an LCC, so there shouldn't be all the Byzantine complications of reserved allocations and seats only available to some and not others and the such like - rather, it should all be pretty straightforward, at least in terms of seat availability. Or am I overlooking something?)
Not aware of there being anything other than "seats" on easyJet, all available via all sales channels until they've gone. They don't even overbook in normal circumstances (no need, as all tickets, even flexible ones, lose their validity when the flight they are booked on closes), people only get bumped when there's a broken seat or when there is an aircraft swap from the larger A320 to the smaller A319 in the event of technical problems.

Neil

TMa0 Oct 17, 2012 1:19 pm

It definitely works. I have booked return ticket and when payment done I've moved immediately return ticket forward. One could speculate even with first leg flight and move it back. But don't reverse first and second leg at timeline ;) and don't violate [-1, 3] weeks condition which is related to original cheapest date. Flexi is even often cheaper than non-cheap-day normal tickets.

drsmithy Mar 21, 2013 1:58 am

A more recent anecdote confirming this is still true, just did it myself for a flight LGW-VCE - booked a flexi a week further ahead (at half the price), then moved it back to the date I actually wanted. No charges.

Ikaz Mar 21, 2013 2:37 am

For what days was the ticket booked and moved to?
If you booked a Friday for example, could you move the ticket to the previous Friday? (So the same day in the week)

drsmithy Mar 22, 2013 3:10 am


Originally Posted by Ikaz (Post 20456462)
For what days was the ticket booked and moved to?
If you booked a Friday for example, could you move the ticket to the previous Friday? (So the same day in the week)

Yes. Booked for a Monday in mid-April, then changed back to the previous Monday.

Fare paid pp was GBP95ish, Flexi fare on the Tuesday I wanted was GBP 180ish, non-flexi fare was GBP125ish (after adding baggage + seats).

Daemon May 26, 2013 11:07 am

Did anyone else try that recently? I didn't try it yet, it could save me $100. Any events that there are no availabilities? (trip is in 3 months...)

There is a new clause:

9.2.2.1 Changes cannot be made within the first 24 hours that follow the initial easyJet Flexi Booking.

mayodave May 27, 2013 11:52 pm

Always find them very accommodating in changing tickets with sensible fees. I missed a connecting flight a few weeks ago, went to the Easyjet desk and changed my ticket for 24 hrs later all for 45 euro.

Ikaz Jun 2, 2013 7:00 am

I don't think that the desired flight would have a chance of being sold out, they rarely do months in advance. And if you read the terms and conditions ok there should not be a problem!

sfx Jun 2, 2013 7:22 am


Originally Posted by Ikaz (Post 20851508)
I don't think that the desired flight would have a chance of being sold out, they rarely do months in advance. And if you read the terms and conditions ok there should not be a problem!

totally depends who is flying and what is happening in destination. For the last two years, I've been booking flights in lots of 30 for three month periods, same flights on same day of the week range a great deal for no apparent reason. I can book a flight a few weeks in advance for rock bottom, and one for eight weeks near the top end... ie EUR 30 v 95.

If your dates are set in stone, book the flights, prices never go down on easyjet.

Ikaz Jun 2, 2013 9:27 am

That is true, but in this case, within the time that you book, then change the date of the ticket (24 hours minimum later), the chances are small I would say for the desired flight date to be sold out (as you would make sure that the flights on the desired day would not be sold out when booking), especially as the flights is 3 months out.
But there is a risk that it does sell out yes, and the prices rarely go down on Easyjet (I have seen it only with promotions, like the recent one out of Lisboa for the anniversary of Easyjet having a hub there I think)

Mizter T Jun 2, 2013 11:33 am


Originally Posted by sfx (Post 20851566)
[...]
If your dates are set in stone, book the flights, prices never go down on easyjet.

That's not true.

Set up an email price alert with skyscanner for a route that easyjet fly, and it's possible to see that their prices can go down as well as up.

(It's worth bearing in mind the easyjet price promise - they don't promote it these days but it still exists. Should you buy a flight and it subsequently goes down in price, then you can reclaim the difference as a credit voucher - this can only be done by telephone, and the credit voucher is only valid for 6 months, but nonetheless it could come in handy. All detailed in Article 26 of easyJet's terms & conditions.)

Regarding Daemon's question about whether there could be no availability on a desired flight - always possible I suppose, but highly unlikely three months out (worth checking the desired flight first though). I'd go for it.

Perhaps the primary purpose of the new 9.2.2.1 clause is to prevent people booking a cheaper flexi fare for imminent travel, i.e. within the next 24 hours. I guess it also functions as a way of creating a little uncertainty for those in position such as Daemon.

Jark Jun 11, 2013 7:00 am

So I'm about to take advantage of this Flexifare "loophole" by buying a Flexi ticket for the 17th at £80 and then moving it back a week to the 24th (which would cost me £123 right now). But just to complicate things a little, I'm paying an extra £13 for an additional piece of checked luggage... if I booked the 24th, this would cost £14. So when I book the 17th at £93, will I then be charged an additional £14 for the second bag after I move my flight to the 24th (making it £107 in total), or will the second bag be transferred seeing as it was already paid for?

Cheers in advance...

sam007 Aug 18, 2013 4:34 pm

Guys - trying to learn this so wanted to validate here

ORY-PSA (paris to Pisa) Sept 8 14:35 Flexi fare showing 126 euros
On Sept 4, it's showing as 83 euros

Can I simply book the second one, then few mins later go back and make the change to fly on sept 8 and not pay anything more? Not even the fare difference?

Thx

LXboy Aug 18, 2013 6:19 pm


Originally Posted by sam007 (Post 21294789)
Can I simply book the second one, then few mins later go back and make the change to fly on sept 8 and not pay anything more?
Thx

No. Check this thread and 9.2.2.1 of the terms and condition. 24hrs wait applies.

sam007 Aug 19, 2013 10:59 pm

guys - i waited 24 hours and tried to change the flight to the 8th for 14:35 but it didn't give me the option. It only gave me the 7am or the 18:30 and i chose the latter
I guess flexi fare does allow you to change flights but they don't give you all options even if seats are available and they are on the 14:35

Any workaround?

sfx Aug 20, 2013 11:13 am

if ya gonna cheat the system, perhaps don't shout about it.

sam007 Aug 20, 2013 8:51 pm

ok but that doesn't answer my question

sfx Aug 21, 2013 9:50 am


ORY-PSA (paris to Pisa) Sept 8 14:35
There is no such flight. Which would be why you can't change your ticket for it.

kt1 Jan 26, 2014 6:10 am

Easyjet flexifare
 
Having read the previous comments regarding changing dates with flexifare and not having to pay any increase in flight cost. Has the following been added to the Easyjet T and C's. If so, it now states that you WILL have to pay any uplift in price.

Article 9 Flight Transfers & Flexible Fares (“easyJet Flexi”)

9.1 Flight Transfers

9.1.1 Passengers can transfer Flights (that is, the date and time or the route of the Flight) for an administration fee per passenger per Flight (see Our Fees and Charges), plus any difference between the original fare paid and the lowest fare available for the same Flight at the time the change is made. If the available fare is lower than the original fare paid, no refund will be made.

Any thoughts?

andreadbc Jan 26, 2014 1:44 pm


Originally Posted by andreadbc (Post 19504395)
I think section 9.1 is for regular flights and 9.2 for Flexi flights, so it would seem that this would work. It would be nice to have someone who has tried it confirm...


Originally Posted by kt1 (Post 22224640)
Having read the previous comments regarding changing dates with flexifare and not having to pay any increase in flight cost. Has the following been added to the Easyjet T and C's. If so, it now states that you WILL have to pay any uplift in price.

Article 9 Flight Transfers & Flexible Fares (“easyJet Flexi”)

9.1 Flight Transfers

9.1.1 Passengers can transfer Flights (that is, the date and time or the route of the Flight) for an administration fee per passenger per Flight (see Our Fees and Charges), plus any difference between the original fare paid and the lowest fare available for the same Flight at the time the change is made. If the available fare is lower than the original fare paid, no refund will be made.

Any thoughts?

Again, I understand that section 9.1 is for regular flights and 9.2 is what applies to flexi fares.


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