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Gaucho100K Aug 7, 2009 6:27 am

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Where can one find good ones?

nytango Aug 7, 2009 6:31 am

Alex,, are we talking entire U.S.?? As far as NYC is concerned there are a few mediocre places but I wait until I get back to Baires.

powerplantop Aug 7, 2009 7:11 am

Don't remember the name but it was on Roosevelt Ave. in Queens at a Columbian place.

But then what kind are you asking about sweet, savory...so many kinds for such a simple question.

Eastbay1K Aug 7, 2009 9:20 am

http://www.manolospizza.com/ (estilo argentino) - Urbana, IL

http://www.yelp.com/biz/chile-lindo-san-francisco (estilo chileno) San Francisco

YVR Cockroach Aug 7, 2009 9:25 am

There used to be a smallish local chain in the Los Angeles area that a friend of mine from Misiones liked to patronise. One location was just off I-5 north of the airport.

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Originally Posted by nytango
Alex,, are we talking entire U.S.?? As far as NYC is concerned there are a few mediocre places but I wait until I get back to Baires.

In NYC, there was once a joint in Hells Kitchen that had proper empanadas... but I think they are no more... :(

BamaVol Aug 7, 2009 3:02 pm

I tried a few from Mexican bakeries in NorCal, but they didn't hold a candle to what you get locally. I wouldn't bother unless the store indicated a connection to Argentina. Nothing like that within 50 miles of where I live (I could make that statement about a lot of things, though).

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Originally Posted by BamaVol
I tried a few from Mexican bakeries in NorCal, but they didn't hold a candle to what you get locally. I wouldn't bother unless the store indicated a connection to Argentina. Nothing like that within 50 miles of where I live (I could make that statement about a lot of things, though).

Im surprised the Mexican connection is no good... Ive had some good empanadas in the Santa Fe area of el DF...

dingo Aug 8, 2009 1:27 pm


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Where can one find good ones?

Where have you looked?

Gaucho100K Aug 8, 2009 6:44 pm

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Originally Posted by dingo

Originally Posted by Gaucho100K (Post 12188837)
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Where can one find good ones?

Where have you looked?

Only in NYC...

dbuckho Aug 8, 2009 11:58 pm

We have a really good place on the Westside of LA:

Empanada's Place - Argentinian Food
3811 Sawtelle Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90066

It may be the same place YVR Cockroach was referring to if by airport he meant LAX (Empanada's Place is just off the 405 just south of Venice Blvd).

YVR Cockroach Aug 11, 2009 7:38 pm


Originally Posted by dbuckho (Post 12196820)
We have a really good place on the Westside of LA:

Empanada's Place - Argentinian Food
3811 Sawtelle Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90066

It may be the same place YVR Cockroach was referring to if by airport he meant LAX (Empanada's Place is just off the 405 just south of Venice Blvd).

Location seems familiar but it's been years since I went there.

riteshraja Aug 11, 2009 9:36 pm

Best ones I have tried are close to home at http://www.empanadaman.com/

LapLap Aug 12, 2009 2:23 am

Can you elaborate on which empanadas you are referring to?

Spain has several versions, but the most famous of these are the empanadas gallegas and as the Galicians are amongst the most travelled of all the Spaniards I wouldn't be surprised if their versions have influenced the empanadas in Argentina and other parts of South America.

Whoever made this webpage is obviously a bit of an empanada connoisseur
http://www.spanishnewyork.com/spanis...-new-york.html
and amongst the recommendations are lots of mentions of empanadas with comments on those that are good and those that are best avoided.
Out of the suggestions I'd be swayed by:
Costa del Sol
369 West 50th Street, New York
(212) 541-8382
Which specifically mentions Empanada Gallega (which should be ordered in advance) and that the owner is from Galicia. Both of these are a good sign.

I'm very partial to the empanadas from Alicante (particularly those with 'pisto' and with pisto and tuna). For my wedding reception I asked an aunt to bring a selection from Spain with her... delicious! And didn't last long at all. I've no idea where you'd get anything as nice as those in London.

bkwee Aug 12, 2009 3:21 am

My wife swears by a place in Boston but I have no idea the name or the location. Best I can do is remember that its on the green line somewhere. I'll try to find a name and report back.

TMOliver Aug 12, 2009 10:37 am

Fruit-filled empanadas are widely available throughout much of the US Southwest in Ethnic Mexican bakeries and in the bakery sections of large supermarkets in communities with sizable Hispanic populations. Then there's CubanoFlorida", home of the guava empanada, the finger food of the Gods.

Here we see pineapple, pumpkin, apple, peach, occasionally mango, even cherry (a Gringo flavor). I recall one nearby bakery in which the empanadas and the kolaces occupy adjoining display case position.

A blow for cultural diversity!

Robt760 Aug 13, 2009 12:13 am


Originally Posted by dbuckho (Post 12196820)
We have a really good place on the Westside of LA:

Empanada's Place - Argentinian Food
3811 Sawtelle Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90066

It may be the same place YVR Cockroach was referring to if by airport he meant LAX (Empanada's Place is just off the 405 just south of Venice Blvd).

Yeah, but the FRY their empanadas, which isn't the same. I won't mention that they charge $3 for sauce...but I did.

Other So Cal Places:

Rincon Aregentino
1375 E Colorado Blvd
Glendale, CA 91205
(good masa, kind of bland fillings, and no sauce provided)

Grand Casino Bakery
3826 Main St
Culver City, CA 90232
(freshly made, can't give too much comment)

Miami Airport:

The empanadas (savory and sweet) at La Carreta/Cafe Versailles stands are cheap and fairly delicious.

Rejuvenated Aug 18, 2009 5:22 pm

I don't know much about Empanadas. But I've always been under the impression that these are part of Filipino cuisines? Or at least those are the only ones I know of.

LapLap Aug 19, 2009 2:15 am


Originally Posted by Rejuvenated (Post 12245989)
I don't know much about Empanadas. But I've always been under the impression that these are part of Filipino cuisines? Or at least those are the only ones I know of.

Empanada just means "embreaded" i.e. sealed in bread/pastry. It's just like using the word "pie" in Castilian/Spanish.

Originally this word came from Spain (and even there there are different kinds of empanadas) but the Spanish empire was pretty extensive. So, yes, it's almost inevitable that empanadas would have been eaten in the Philippines and adopted and adapted there.

That's why it would be nice if el seņor OP would actually tell us what he actually means when he uses the word "empanada" :p

mlshanks Aug 19, 2009 2:50 am

Gaucho100K can also find pretty decent empanadas in Los Angeles at Mercado Buenos Aires in Van Nuys on Sepulveda Blvd., baked....not fried. In fact, the Argentine folks I know all swear by the place as the best food outside of their own country.

Gaucho100K Aug 19, 2009 5:18 am

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Originally Posted by LapLap

Originally Posted by Rejuvenated (Post 12245989)
I don't know much about Empanadas. But I've always been under the impression that these are part of Filipino cuisines? Or at least those are the only ones I know of.

Empanada just means "embreaded" i.e. sealed in bread/pastry. It's just like using the word "pie" in Castilian/Spanish.

Originally this word came from Spain (and even there there are different kinds of empanadas) but the Spanish empire was pretty extensive. So, yes, it's almost inevitable that empanadas would have been eaten in the Philippines and adopted and adapted there.

That's why it would be nice if el seņor OP would actually tell us what he actually means when he uses the word "empanada" :p

One can play the semantics game all you want but pie or no pie, there is in reality only one empanada.

LapLap Aug 19, 2009 6:30 am


Originally Posted by Gaucho100K (Post 12247968)
One can play the semantics game all you want but pie or no pie, there is in reality only one empanada.

:confused: And I still have no idea what that one kind of empanada you are referring to is.

A shame, I was hoping to actually learn something on this thread.

WalruSara Aug 19, 2009 6:55 am

Empanada Mama on 9th Avenue between 50th and 51st in NYC is decent. Their traditional empanadas are better than their "Americanized" ones, in my opinion. Really like the pernil.

ambyr Aug 24, 2009 9:24 am

Julia's Empanadas keeps the DC region well-supplied.

I'm not fond of the fruit ones (too sweet), but the meat and vegetable ones are pretty good.

Mr. Roboto Aug 24, 2009 12:55 pm

In Southern California
 
Not too far from Ontario Airport (ONT):

TANGO BAIRES CAFE
870 East Foothill Blvd. #2
Upland, CA 91786-4047
Tel: (909) 985-6800

Robt760 Aug 24, 2009 6:47 pm


Originally Posted by Mr. Roboto (Post 12275005)
Not too far from Ontario Airport (ONT):

TANGO BAIRES CAFE
870 East Foothill Blvd. #2
Upland, CA 91786-4047
Tel: (909) 985-6800

Hey that's not far from another place for good food (though not related to Empanadas):

BUCKBOARD BBQ
1386 E Foothill Blvd # M
Upland, CA 91786-4016
(909) 608-7393

dia1 Aug 24, 2009 7:01 pm

Pretty good empanadas:
 
Berta's Latin American Restaurant
on the edge of Old Town (park) in San Diego

Gaucho100K Aug 25, 2009 5:18 pm

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Originally Posted by ambyr
Julia's Empanadas keeps the DC region well-supplied.

I'm not fond of the fruit ones (too sweet), but the meat and vegetable ones are pretty good.

fruit empanadas....???

:eek:

Steph3n Aug 25, 2009 5:47 pm

lots of them in the miami area most are Cuban or Caribbean inspired, not a big fan of them personally, so I don't know where the best can be found.

LapLap Aug 26, 2009 12:42 am


Originally Posted by Gaucho100K (Post 12282239)
fruit empanadas....???

:eek:

Also mentioned in post 16.

Before your extraordinary declaration of: "there is in reality only one empanada".

(And, generally, for the empanadas I know, you're not far off the mark - with an empanada there is often only one served, but in portions. It's empanadillas we have a few of. Now that's playing semantics.)

http://www.pastelerialamurciana.es/p...hp?idfamilia=4 It's going to be months before I can have a decent empanada/empanadilla :(:(:(
'Greggs' just doesn't do it for me...

BamaVol Aug 26, 2009 8:33 pm


Originally Posted by Gaucho100K (Post 12191582)
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Im surprised the Mexican connection is no good... Ive had some good empanadas in the Santa Fe area of el DF...

It's because they were all fruit filled. I might as well order an apple pie at McDonald's.

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Originally Posted by BamaVol

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Im surprised the Mexican connection is no good... Ive had some good empanadas in the Santa Fe area of el DF...

It's because they were all fruit filled. I might as well order an apple pie at McDonald's.

agreed.... fruit has no business in empanadas!!

TMOliver Aug 27, 2009 10:16 am


Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
....agreed.... fruit has no business in empanadas!!

I disagree mightily. I've had some bad meat-filled empanadas in my time, but few capable of being used for door stoppers, the best fate for some Cornish pasties of my kin. I suspect that most fruit filled empanadas of North America owe their origin to Cuban cuisine, and indirectly to some Spanish ancestor. I've seen a couple of sources which claim that the SAmerican meat empanadas are not even of legitimate Spanish heritage, actually fomented by "Other" immigrants from Europe installing vestiges of their own cuisine.

Call'em pasties, empenadas, samosas, whatever, similar styles of "finger food" are found around the world, stuffed with everything from the noble to the noxious...

maskedavenger Aug 27, 2009 10:18 am

Ruben's Empanadas
505 Broome St
New York, NY 10013
(212) 334-3351


also;

If you are on the 400 block of Suriwongse Rd, Bangkok, Thailand and you walk down the block with the commercial Indian restaurant, being on your right....towards Silom Rd.....there is a fantastic Empanada shop on your right, halfway down the block on the right side. This is the actual factory that supplies other locations with this product daily. There are some very friendly ladies running this place....and they will even do your choice of mixtures for the next day.

Gaucho100K Aug 27, 2009 10:39 am


Originally Posted by TMOliver (Post 12291248)
I disagree mightily. I've had some bad meat-filled empanadas in my time, but few capable of being used for door stoppers, the best fate for some Cornish pasties of my kin. I suspect that most fruit filled empanadas of North America owe their origin to Cuban cuisine, and indirectly to some Spanish ancestor. I've seen a couple of sources which claim that the SAmerican meat empanadas are not even of legitimate Spanish heritage, actually fomented by "Other" immigrants from Europe installing vestiges of their own cuisine.

Call'em pasties, empenadas, samosas, whatever, similar styles of "finger food" are found around the world, stuffed with everything from the noble to the noxious...

Im not saying they cant be good... they are just not empanadas, no matter what twist you want to give it.


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